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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #90 on: October 27, 2009, 11:24:58 PM »
Probably will want Three+ runes aswell.  I have died often with 7+ runes, because once I get three I always think I can get them all (although I have never managed crypt, as I dont play the correct race/job/god combo).

Also dont go too crazy on the effects, I believe there are rules about such things...

As for URLs the following line will work

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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #91 on: October 27, 2009, 11:33:28 PM »
Quote from: Char Dump
As you read the scroll, it crumbles to dust.
You smell .
Scroll of Rudeness?

EDIT: No, really, I got this message.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2009, 12:42:19 AM by Fenrir »

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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #92 on: October 27, 2009, 11:46:01 PM »
Alright, I think this will be how high-score table looks. And as I update it, I will delete the older one so there's only one table that "moves around". Does this one look alright?

REST IN PEACE EXPLORERS OF THE DUNGEON.. THESE BRAVE ADVENTURERS SHALL BE REMEMBERED...

(1) 210030 Numeron the Severer (level 18, -26/163 HPs)
(2) 18263 Karzack the Hacker (level 12, -1/104 HPs)
(3) 4300 Karis the Slicer (level 10, -2/56 HPs)   (Player: Archaalen)


Color-coding: No Runes, One Rune, Two Runes, Three Runes, Three Runes+, Orb of Zot, All Runes+Orb, Winner!.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2009, 12:27:11 AM by Omnivorous »

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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #93 on: October 28, 2009, 12:29:06 AM »
Looks good to me.  Now I need to get to go play and get a character on there.  :)

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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #94 on: October 28, 2009, 10:11:35 AM »
Quote from: Char Dump
As you read the scroll, it crumbles to dust.
You smell .
Scroll of Rudeness?

EDIT: No, really, I got this message.

That's supposed to be the message of a Scroll of Random Uselessness (e.g. "You smell {something weird}." where the part in curlies is randomly generated). I think what went wrong is that the random part was pulled from an array with an out of bounds index.

You could report this as a bug.


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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #95 on: October 28, 2009, 10:23:54 PM »
I think that is one bug that should stay in there.  :)
Let's get the devs to add a scroll of rudeness.

Edit:  Bah, killed me too fast to react.  I got caught at the end of a berserk (slow).  I could have blinked though... :(
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.5.2 (crawl-ref) character file.

18263 Karzack the Hacker (level 12, -1/104 HPs)
             Began as a Mountain Dwarf Berserker on Oct 27, 2009.
             Was a High Priest of Trog.
             Slain by a 14-headed hydra (3 damage)
             ... on Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts on Oct 28, 2009.
             The game lasted 02:59:09 (19903 turns).

Karzack the Hacker (Mountain Dwarf Berserker)                                  Turns: 19903, Time: 02:59:09

HP  -1/104       AC 24     Str 21      Exp: 12/25269 (0), need: 12430
MP   7/7         EV  6     Int  5      God: Trog *****
Gold 575         SH  9     Dex 17      Spells:  0 memorised, 11 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : .   a - +1,+10 war axe of the Trees {god gift, rN+
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   e - +1 plate mail
Life Prot.: + + +   Conserve   : .   h - +3 shield of Summer {+Rage rN+}
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   (no helmet)
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   z - +2 cloak
                                     O - +2 pair of orc gloves
Sust.Abil.: .       Rnd.Telep. : .   (no boots)
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   (no amulet)
Res.Slow  : .       Levitation : .   i - ring of life protection
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .   l - ring of protection from fire

@: exhausted, very slow, slowed, very resistant to magic, extremely unstealthy
A: no striking features
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage


You were on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worshipped Trog.
Trog was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and saw 21 of its levels.

You collected 1122 gold pieces.
You spent 570 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - the +1,+10 war axe of the Trees (weapon) {god gift, rN+ MR}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)  
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
 b - a +1,+0 dwarven crossbow
Missiles
 F - 22 poisoned +0 orcish bolts
Armour
 e - a +1 plate mail (worn)
 h - the +3 shield of Summer (worn) {+Rage rN+}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)  
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It lets you go berserk.
 z - a +2 cloak (worn)
 O - a +2 pair of orcish gloves (worn)
Magical devices
 d - a wand of fireball (4)
 q - a wand of digging (12)
 u - a wand of disintegration (4)
 v - a wand of enslavement (7)
 D - a wand of draining (4)
 P - a wand of lightning (6)
Comestibles
 n - 13 honeycombs
 x - a royal jelly
 y - 6 bread rations
Scrolls
 g - 2 scrolls of blinking
 w - 5 scrolls of remove curse
 A - 3 scrolls of recharging
 B - a scroll of teleportation
 E - a scroll of identify
 G - 4 scrolls of fog
 M - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
Jewellery
 i - a ring of life protection (right hand)
 l - a ring of protection from fire (left hand)
 p - an uncursed ring of life protection
Potions
 f - 6 potions of healing
 j - 5 potions of speed
 k - a potion of restore abilities
 m - a potion of berserk rage
 o - 2 potions of heal wounds
 r - 2 potions of invisibility
 t - 2 potions of might
 H - 2 potions of levitation
Books
 I - a book of War Chants  
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Fire Brand                         Enchantment/Fire             2
   Freezing Aura                      Enchantment/Ice              2
   Repel Missiles                     Enchantment/Air              2
   Berserker Rage                     Enchantment                  3
   Regeneration                       Enchantment/Necromancy       3
   Haste                              Enchantment                  6
   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.


 You had 0 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 9 Fighting
 + Level 15 Axes
 - Level 2 Crossbows
 - Level 2 Darts
 + Level 9 Armour
 + Level 2 Dodging
 + Level 7 Shields
 + Level 4 Traps & Doors


You had 11 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Overview of the Dungeon

Branches:
Temple: D:6       Orc   : D:8       Lair  : D:11      Snake : Lair:4

Altars:
Okawaru: D:8

Shops:
D:6: *  Lair:1: [  Lair:2: /=[/  Lair:3: *  Lair:4: =

Message History

You block the 14-headed hydra's attack.
The 14-headed hydra bites you.
The 14-headed hydra bites you but doesn't do any damage.
The 14-headed hydra bites you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The 14-headed hydra bites you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *

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#   ...........#    #.#
#  .......##...######.#
#  ...................#
#  .......#...############
# ........#..........##...
####### #....#######.##...
......# #.##O##....#.##...
......# #<##.##....#.##...
......# ####@##....#..'...
...##.#    #D##....####...
...##.#    #r##....##.....
..###.#    #.##....##.#...
#.# #.#    ..##....#>.#...
#.# #.#########.####..#...
#.# #.................#...
#.# ################..####
#.#####.#          #.##
#.......#          #..

*snip*
« Last Edit: October 29, 2009, 12:14:29 AM by Karzack »

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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #96 on: October 29, 2009, 12:27:45 AM »
Alright, I think this will be how high-score table looks. And as I update it, I will delete the older one so there's only one table that "moves around". Does this one look alright?

REST IN PEACE EXPLORERS OF THE DUNGEON.. THESE BRAVE ADVENTURERS SHALL BE REMEMBERED...

(1) 210030 Numeron the Severer (level 18, -26/163 HPs)
(2) 18263 Karzack the Hacker (level 12, -1/104 HPs)
(3) 4300 Karis the Slicer (level 10, -2/56 HPs)   (Player: Archaalen)


Color-coding: No Runes, One Rune, Two Runes, Three Runes, Three Runes+, Orb of Zot, All Runes+Orb, Winner!.

EDIT: Ugh.. I find no way of deleting my old posts... Is this not possible?
« Last Edit: October 29, 2009, 12:29:20 AM by Omnivorous »

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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #97 on: October 29, 2009, 03:09:06 AM »
You should really be careful around hydras if you specialise in axes, I see it got up to 14 heads before it killed you... axes (unless theyre flaming brand) will cause more heads to grow, and basically make the damn things stronger the more you hit them. I always keep a secondary weapon for hydras (ideally a flaming axe, since I usually go with axes too), and also at least one disposable hand axe to deal with red jellies.

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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #98 on: October 29, 2009, 09:11:53 AM »
I don't expect to find flaming edged weapons (let alone axes) before having to deal with hydras in the Lair or the Swamp. The existence of hydras alone is reason enough to build maces & flails skill. Big races can stick with blunt weapons anyway, since they'll be able to use giant spiked clubs for 20 damage per hit. Smaller races in fighter classes should eventually go with axes, since an executioner's axe is the only way for them to deal 20 damage per hit. Luckily, high maces & flails skill makes it easier to increase axes skill, and vice versa.

It's often safer to deal with hydras from a distance. They have no resistances except for poison, so you can blast them with fire, ice, lightning, draining or disintegration, and even slow, confuse, frighten, teleport or enslave them. Followers of Trog can call in reinforcements and retreat while their pet keeps the hydra occupied.

BTW Karzack, that's a pretty good set of equipment for a L12 character.

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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #99 on: October 29, 2009, 10:29:05 PM »
I took out 2 hydras prior to the one that killed me.  3rd time wasn't a charm I guess...

I went berserk on something before and then the hydra came to play too.  I summoned an ogre (wanted something a bit better) and then I was going to move behind him and let the hydra play with him.  Then I was going for the stairs to recuperate.  If I would have blinked instead of trying to move, I may have made it.  I will definitely be weary of hydras from now on.  I am currently close to encountering them again on my current character.

Another learning experience  :)

@Omnivorous
Maybe you should start a new thread for the high score list.  The list would be first post and then you could just modify it when needed.  Then we could put our dumps in there and discuss other things in this thread.  Just a thought.

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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #100 on: October 30, 2009, 05:13:51 AM »
PerKiller the Martial Artist is going really well.. His closest-to-death moments were at beginning of the dungeon, and he discovered Blork the Orc really early on. Had to go out of his way to survive, using up all teleport scrolls twice combined with all Healing Potions he were lucky enough to discover in inventory, and stair-hopping while hasting with -very- few hitpoints left.. He was close to giving up, just give in to the bloodthirsty mob of orcs and summoned creatures of Blork, but Okawaru's fighting-spirit would not let him surrender so he ran as far as his feet would let him, stopped whenever he could, making use of common scrolls and potions he'd normally not trust to get him out of such a hairy situation.. With some luck he managed to escape the encounter, diving deeper into the dungeon, leaving the angry mob behind him for now..
He then discovered Orc Mines, The Lair a Jewelry Store and The Hive. He's now making camp at Level 2 of Lair of Beasts and this is his current standings:

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.5.1 (crawl-ref) character file.

PerKiller the Martial Artist (Centaur Monk)        Turns: 26033, Time: 02:35:54


HP  86/87 (104)  AC 25     Str 13      Exp: 12/34229 (60), need: 6370

MP  13/13        EV 12     Int 14      God: Okawaru *****

Gold 165         SH  0     Dex 16      Spells:  0 memorised, 11 levels left



Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : .     - Unarmed

Res.Cold  : + . .   Warding    : .   q - +2 orc robe {rC+ rF+}

Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (no shield)

Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : +   J - +1 crested helmet {Int+3} {god gift}

Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   z - +1 cloak {MR} {god gift}

                                     N - +2 pair of dwarf gloves

Sust.Abil.: .       Rnd.Telep. : .   (no barding)

Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   H - amulet of resist corrosion

Res.Slow  : .       Levitation : .   g - ring of Robustness {AC+8}

Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .   i - +4 ring of protection



@: very quick, quite resistant to magic, fairly stealthy
A: fast metabolism 2, speed 2, deformed body 1, hooves, AC +3
a: Might, Haste, Renounce Religion

You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 21 of its levels.

You have collected 1439 gold pieces.
You have spent 1274 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +0,+0 bow
 D - an uncursed runed elven dagger
 T - an uncursed runed hand crossbow of protection {god gift}
 X - a runed elven spear (quivered)
Missiles
 c - 18 arrows
 d - 4 +1 arrows
 p - 21 poisoned orcish bolts
 r - 5 poisoned +0 orcish arrows
 s - 12 +0 orcish darts
 t - 6 +0 elven darts
 C - a throwing net
 G - 7 orcish javelins
 K - 35 +0 arrows
 M - 34 arrows
 O - 27 orcish bolts
 P - 16 poisoned elven needles
 Q - 54 +0 darts
 Z - a -7 throwing net
Armour
 q - a +2 orcish robe of resistance (worn)
 z - a +1 cloak of magic resistance (worn) {god gift}
 J - a +1 crested helmet of intelligence (worn) {god gift}
 N - a +2 pair of dwarven gloves (worn)
Magical devices
 e - a wand of slowing {zapped: 2}
 f - a glass wand
 l - a wand of digging {zapped: 2}
 w - a wand of slowing {zapped: 1}
 A - a wand of flame {zapped: 4}
 B - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1}
 E - a wand of confusion {zapped: 3}
 L - a wand of flame
 R - a worn brass wand
Comestibles
 U - 16 strawberries
Scrolls
 k - a scroll of detect curse
 n - a scroll labeled YSCHORGHUSEB {tried}
 o - 5 scrolls of remove curse
 v - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 y - 2 scrolls of identify
 F - a scroll of recharging
 I - a scroll labeled MACVESHEAB
 S - a scroll labeled KHOAHO RECWE
Jewellery
 g - the ring of Robustness (right hand) {AC+8}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 10 of the Dungeon)  
   [ring of protection]
   It affects your AC (+8).
 i - a +4 ring of protection (left hand)
 H - an amulet of resist corrosion (around neck)
Potions
 b - a potion of healing
 j - a potion of might
 m - a white potion
 u - a potion of restore abilities
 x - 2 fuming red potions


 You have 60 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 7 Fighting
 + Level 10 Bows
 + Level 8 Darts
 + Level 6 Throwing
 + Level 7 Dodging
 + Level 4 Stealth
 + Level 1 Traps & Doors
 + Level 13 Unarmed Combat
 + Level 3 Invocations


You have 11 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Overview of the Dungeon

Branches: (use G to reach them and ?/B for more information)
Temple: D:6       Orc   : D:10      Elf   : Orc:3     Lair  : D:10  
Hive  : D:11      
Altars: (use Ctrl-F "altar" to reach them and ?/G for information about gods)
Kikubaaqudgha: D:6
Trog: D:12
Shops: (use Ctrl-F "shop" to reach them)
D:9: !  D:10: =  D:12: /?

                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have extremely tough skin (AC +3).
You have a very fast metabolism.
You cover ground very quickly.
Armour fits poorly on your equine body.
You have hooves in place of feet.

Finally a char that's NOT a MiBe working out well.. :P Pretty refreshing and fun character to play too.. Incredible speed as a Centaur, and Unarmed Combat negates all hassle related to meelee-weapons (which one to choose, which ones to try out, blahblahblah). He's got a nice collection of spell books too in his stash..if I only could make him start memorizing them..
Question: How do I divide a stack of multiple items? He's carrying way too much food, but I do want to bring -some- of it.
Edit: Ahh thankgod, I found out how to drop a certain amount now finally! Now I can continue the run! :)
« Last Edit: October 30, 2009, 10:15:05 AM by Omnivorous »

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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #101 on: October 30, 2009, 10:18:20 AM »
That centaur monk looks promising for a somewhat exotic character. I don't remember ever playing an archer character. I'd be interested in your observations on gameplay/strategy with this particular combination.

You can drop part of a stack of items with the 'd#i' command. Press 'd' to drop, then enter a number like '4' or '12', followed by the letter of the item in question (or click the item in your inventory).

If you want to be able to cast spells with a non-spellcaster, you'll have to raise your spellcasting skill to level 1 by reading lots and lots of scrolls. I don't know if raising your Int would help, but it just might.

This evening I'll -finally- have a couple of hours spare time to go for another dive with a new char, and hopefully be able to submit another valliant death to the high score list (but not too soon). I'm undecided about which race/class to choose, so if anyone has a recommendation/challenge, I'd be glad to hear it. I'm not going to play a Spriggan Wanderer, though. ;)

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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #102 on: October 30, 2009, 11:55:24 AM »
Well I have played Centaur Hunter before, as a ranged/archer character, even though I don't like that idea..and it's been pretty powerful, then again, they've usually all died once something starts hitting hard and close-up.

Anyway I got really excited by "discovering" the monk combined with Centaur..why don't you try that out and let me know how it works out for you? Unarmed Combat is around level 15 or something now and to be honest..bashing almoast feels like a MiBe while berserking! :P Especially with "Might" from Okawaru. Up his sleeve he's also superior with ranged-weapons like you said, and my char just learned spellcasting now! Time to return to my bookshelf at the Lair! :)

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Re: Never beat Crawl? Enter here! :-)
« Reply #103 on: October 30, 2009, 07:32:54 PM »
What do you suggest for Centaur Monks?  Focus on heavy armour or look more for evasion?

What types of spells do you usually favor?

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« Reply #104 on: October 30, 2009, 10:16:04 PM »
I think heavy armour hinders unarmed combat.