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Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« on: November 24, 2013, 10:28:05 PM »
I've heard it's a primitive place to live, with things like separate hot and cold water, windows with only single window glass etc. Some have said that it can be colder in England than in Finland, because heating is so poorly done.

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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2013, 12:26:34 AM »
I've heard it's a primitive place to live, with things like separate hot and cold water, windows with only single window glass etc. Some have said that it can be colder in England than in Finland, because heating is so poorly done.

This reminds me a lot of a certain other topic involving Russians...

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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2013, 02:44:33 AM »
What do you mean separate hot and cold water? In Finland does all water just come out a constant lukewarm temperature?
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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2013, 08:47:23 AM »
What do you mean separate hot and cold water? In Finland does all water just come out a constant lukewarm temperature?
My guess is he means two separate faucets, instead of a single tap with handles to regulate the temperature. Why on earth anyone would pretend to assume something as stupid as there being no single piece of modern plumbing in the entirety of England … well, it's a subset of Nordic humour, I guess :P

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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2013, 09:15:52 PM »
Lol, this is indeed "The Russians" all over again...but there`s at least an element of truth in this one. Minotauros above is correct, some older buildings do have this separate faucet system, also some British traditionalists install them in new homes. It`s a royal pain in the ass if you ask me and anybody used to "normal" system, but it`s just one of the British oddities and not really a big deal (extensions are available in shops). Reasons are unclear - something to do with overall Victorian bizarreness, obsession with saving water (?), some old law about water tank contamination and most of all  tradition and force of habit.

And yeah, most of the houses do not have double glazing - but here explanation is very simple: it`s the climate, stoopid. Southern England is only getting harsh ("harsh" meaning laughable minus few degrees Celsius) winters for the last few years, therefore such contraptions were not needed.

As it is with most -phobic observations like the OP`s here, two "examples" are sufficient to construct an entire thesis. Is ol` Engerland really a "primitive nation"?  I`ll leave this question unanswered, as it is a good example of a rhetorical one. Also, do not fret, local Little Englanders have similar prejudices about other nations - I`m pretty sure they think you lot in Finland live in igloos and hunt reindeer for supper.

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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 12:56:00 AM »
What do you mean separate hot and cold water? In Finland does all water just come out a constant lukewarm temperature?

In Finland, the water is always the right temperature.

EDIT: krice, I request that you do a USA topic next.
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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 05:23:30 AM »
Nah. Americans are just too easy, over done.

I tried an Ethiopian rant once that was kinda funny. Something like...In the 80's you had 30 million people you couldn't feed so we fed them, and now you have 90 million. Should have bought you condoms not bred...I actually heard it on a right wing yell radio station.

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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2013, 10:06:59 AM »
Nah. Americans are just too easy, over done.

The interesting thing about US is that it's oligarchy. This view is also in wikipedia so it has to be true:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy#United_States

I realized this the other day when I was reading Plato's 'Republic'. It has some funny comments about democracy, too. It seems like Plato himself wasn't too happy about democracy, even we now think that ancient greeks were strictly democratic people. It's also amazing how even then people were able to detect problems that certain political systems had and still have.

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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2013, 10:13:18 AM »
In the 80's you had 30 million people you couldn't feed so we fed them, and now you have 90 million. Should have bought you condoms not bred...I actually heard it on a right wing yell radio station.

It's quite true actually. The "problem" in Africa is the way people reproduce like rabbits, because it's how their culture is in many countries of Africa. When we give them more money and better chances to survive, they reproduce more!

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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2013, 03:16:14 PM »
It's a temporary problem that'll correct itself. It's played out in most other places around the world.
Since we're linking wikipedia pages, here's the article on "demographic transition".
When places are poorer and not as industrialized, people have a lot of babies. Because:
1) The infant mortality rate is high, so most of them won't survive til adulthood
2) The general death rate is high, so you need to have lots of babies to replace the people who are dying
3) In pre-industrial societies, you need lots of people, because you get more work done that way
4) There's generally not a lot for people (particularly women) to do besides have kids, which is compounded by the fact that
5) Contraception is not widely available

Advances in healthcare and food production cause the infant mortality rate to fall and life expectancy to increase. But that's generally the first thing that happens, and there hasn't been a cultural shift yet. People are still used to having lots of kids, resulting in an exploding population. As society gets more industrialized, more education is available (especially to women), the birth rate will fall.
In fact, sometimes it even falls below the death rate, as has happened in a lot of european countries.
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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2013, 10:14:15 PM »
there hasn't been a cultural shift yet.

Hasn't been in England either. When they are going to change that? And what if African countries don't want to become civilized?

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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2013, 11:26:44 PM »
there hasn't been a cultural shift yet.

Hasn't been in England either. When they are going to change that? And what if African countries don't want to become civilized?

I'm beginning to think this topic wasn't made as a joke.  And that worries me.

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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 03:40:34 AM »
I wonder why he put a question mark in the title since apparently he already "knows" the answer.
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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2013, 05:43:12 AM »
For the newer guys that don't know about Krice, he does this once in awhile.

Whether he's joking or not is the fun part.

The US is a plutocracy, a type of oligarchy.

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Re: Is England world's biggest open-air museum?
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 06:02:42 AM »
For the newer guys that don't know about Krice, he does this once in awhile.

Whether he's joking or not is the fun part.

The US is a plutocracy, a type of oligarchy.

I realize this is probably a dumb question, but don't a relatively homogenous group of people with money and power consistently maintain political control in all countries?

I do think krice is a cool girl/guy, and I'm not trying to pick on her/him.   However, what she/he is saying is just kind of disappointing and depressing to me.  I have always wanted to move to her/his area of the world one day, because I thought people there were the most open minded and caring of anyone on the planet.  And they still may be, I am just kind of surprised by krice's statements that seem to indicate, well, the opposite of that.