Roguelike of the Year!

[Krice]

I think donation requests are okay if you have put money into a game which is otherwise free

I would set up a donation button for Kaduria if I knew how! I'm too dumb to understand Paypal.

[mariodonick]

It's very easy. If you have a PayPal account, you simply log in, go to the business section and somewhere there is the link. Then there's a small form where you fill in your options (i.e. fixed donation rate, or users may decide freely), and some things regarding the look of the button. In the end you get some HTML code you insert into your website.

[guest509]

Is it a forum about roguelike games or an imageboard? at least we need posters done in ASCII style

ps: Dredmor and Isaac in this year list and Diablo 3 next year ?

  I imagine the Diablo 3 debate to rage hot and unresolved throughout 2012.

[Krice]

If you have a PayPal account

Don't have it.

[Darren Grey]

Will Diablo 3 have any roguelike features?

[Z]

Comparing Dredmor to Diablo, I think the two are very similar, but Dredmor is turn based and shallower.

[getter77]

I've said it once and I'll always maintain it:  Din's Curse (Demon War) bears much more attention warranted than most anything kicking about this slice of the"ARPG" space.  Older-school Roguelkes could stand to jot some notes down in terms of living world/NPC interactions that'd likely flow a bit better in a turn-based apparatus.

For DIII, IIRC, it is set to have less elements than Diablo II---sliding further from the original.  On the flip side, well, I expect to see another good release for DiabloRL somewhere in 2012!   

[Legend]

I've said it once and I'll always maintain it:  Din's Curse (Demon War) bears much more attention warranted than most anything kicking about this slice of the"ARPG" space.  Older-school Roguelkes could stand to jot some notes down in terms of living world/NPC interactions that'd likely flow a bit better in a turn-based apparatus.

For DIII, IIRC, it is set to have less elements than Diablo II---sliding further from the original.  On the flip side, well, I expect to see another good release for DiabloRL somewhere in 2012!   

Glad you mentioned it. It looks like a really cool game.

I honestly can't really see why Dredmor is so far ahead in the running.

When I first saw the trailer for Dredmor, I was blown away. It looked absolutely awesome. Then when it finally came out and I got it, It was awesome. For a few hours.

It's charms soon faded as it just seemed too slow, had too much junk, I rarely found useful weapons/armor and rarely managed to get enough zorkmids to buy some. Even with the new "no time for grind" setting, it still seems drawn out too much. I still think it's a good game and I like the leveling sytem. It's just not nearly as good as most the other roguelikes that have come out this year or the classics like crawl.

I think the main reason for it's high rank is partly the glamour of it being the most roguelike of all the other commercial roguelikes out. Although, I have to say I'm finding myself enjoying Cardinal Quest and Binding of Isaac more then Dredmor.

I would love to see some of the other newer ones get a bit more praise like Hydra Slayer for being pretty innovative and Infra Arcana for it's atmosphere and interesting ideas. I find myself enjoying dying far more in those games within minutes to an hour than the several hours it usually takes to explore two levels and die in Dredmor.   

Just my opinion.

It would be nice if the voting page had links to each game. There are quite a few on there that I didn't know about and have missed and haven't tried yet.

[getter77]

For many people, Dredmor is their gateway into the world of Roguelikes same as Isaac---without a doubt.  Also, the Desura crowd is beget from the IndieDB and ModDB sites---they tend to be vocal voters after all these years.  If the trail of history had went  horribly, horribly astray and only now was Shiren the Wanderer first popping up on PC in a modern form it is likely the same sort of result would've come to pass.

Some of the newcomers will branch out into other Roguelikes, either from the poll, the Gaslamp Games forum, or just as sort of a natural conclusion having had a taste---others may be content with all the massive amount of stuff the Expansion added on top of the latest patch and just hang in there as mods, patches, and all else roll onward----perhaps hoping for an eventual sequel one day.

I've got high hopes for Hack, Slash, Loot for early next year alongside Cardinal Quest 2 as there is room for a vast sea of different Roguelike styles and whatnot.  Some folk are apparently hand-wringing over HSL not being a "proper" RL, but this damned overtaxonomy fixation still seems to be a thing.

Agreed that the title for each entry being a hyperlink to the game's homepage would be an improvement for next year----when possible that is.  Sadly, the Dungeonmans website is now not even a spammed corpse with all the old info still there buried under it----now just  a blanks site with "lol dungeonmans lol" written on it.   

[guest509]

  I know I went to the Dungeonman's site about a week ago looking for the game and the site is totally gone. Sad.

[guest509]

  Well the poll is pretty much over, 1 day left. But I won't have time later so I'll do this now. Here is the top 20.
1. ToME 4                                        666 (23%)
2. Dungeons of Dredmor                584 (20%)
3. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup        463 (16%)
4. JADE                                        413 (14%)
5. Desktop Dungeons                368 (13%)
6. Dwarf Fortress                        351 (12%)
7. Brogue                                        234 (8%)
8. The Binding of Isaac                186 (6%)
9. DoomRL: Doom, the Roguelike  168 (6%)
10. Cataclysm                                164 (5%)
11. Legends of Yore                          92 (3%)
12. Caves of Qud                          83 (2%)
13. UnReal World                          77 (2%)
14. X@COM                                  74 (2%)
15. Angband                                  66 (2%)
16. Infra Arcana                          62 (2%)
17. POWDER                                  61 (2%)
18. Cardinal Quest                          60 (2%)
19. Prospector RL                          48 (1%)
20. Rogue Survivor                          47 (1%)

  Other categories other than a top 20 end up being a bit uninteresting. All the good ones are on this list.

[mariodonick]

All the good ones are on this list.

Legerdemain?

Edit: I must say that I really feel bad about the sound of this. It's like "everything that is not known enough for getting many votes is not worth playing or looking at". :/

[getter77]

I think he meant in terms of deeper category fodder as was eluded to further back in the thread moreso than absolute game quality.  Legerdemain comes back to my ranting in the ASCII Dreams poll thread under the name Brian.   

With a few exceptions, the top 20 seem to be largely defined by frequency of updates, outright newcomer shine, and a generally expressive existence.

[Z]

I don't think Legerdemain is a good game, but I agree with mariodonick's second sentence. Also I think you should not post the results before the poll officially ends.

Why are people voting for JADE? It has received lots of votes, but IMHO there are lots of other games which are more playable and more promising. Do they think it is actually a good game already, or they think that releasing it was an important event of this year? Or is it because of the huge ADOM fanbase who are voting for it without knowing many other roguelikes?

[mariodonick]

I don't think Legerdemain is a good game

May I ask why? (Really, I want to know.)


I think "Roguelike of the year" is simply a bit too blurry -- anyone can vote for anything. But the categories issue has been discussed already a lot. *g*