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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Re: Elite RL (7DRL 2013) Success.
« on: March 09, 2014, 12:17:49 AM »
After 7DRL 2014 I can try to implement Save/Load for EliteRL
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Temple of the Roguelike / Re: Issues with forum / blog? Post here!
« on: March 21, 2013, 02:39:24 PM »
Confirmed.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Temple of the Roguelike / Re: Issues with forum / blog? Post here!
« on: March 21, 2013, 01:07:26 PM »
Option for restore forgotten password is not working. No any answers to email (spam folder is empty too)
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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Re: Elite RL (7DRL 2013) Success.
« on: March 19, 2013, 03:51:54 AM »
Space objects and things.
+ - short-life pieces of alloys. Can be collected with FuelScoop.
□ - containers. Can be collected with FuelScoop
D - Adder
A - Asp
@ - Cobra Mk3
F - Fer-de-Lance
K -Krait
P - Python
S - Sidewinder
V - Viper
♦ - Space Station
· - Correct side for docking
· - Wrong side for docking
+ - short-life pieces of alloys. Can be collected with FuelScoop.
□ - containers. Can be collected with FuelScoop
D - Adder
A - Asp
@ - Cobra Mk3
F - Fer-de-Lance
K -Krait
P - Python
S - Sidewinder
V - Viper
♦ - Space Station
· - Correct side for docking
· - Wrong side for docking
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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Elite RL (7DRL 2013) Day 7.
« on: March 18, 2013, 02:56:50 AM »
Download link in the head post. For couple minutes i will type a short manual for game.
Manual.
In EliteRL you are control a space ship and can flight and fight.
Form start menu can be started two different games - classic Elite universe and random generated.
You start on space station, orbiting planet.
[3] - Equipment dock. Strategic tip - sold pulse laser, one missile and buy fuel scoop. Now, you can collect containers from destroyed ships and refueling from star's corona.
Scroll up and down for chose a goods/equipment.
left - sale, right - buy.
[4] Short range star map.
wasd or arrows for scroll.
hold shift for fast scroll
hold ctrl for accurate scroll
aim cursor to star and press Space to lock target star for hyper drive.
White stars in range. Gray stars - out of space. Red circle - reachable space with full tank. Blue - with current amount of fuel.
On right side - star system info.
High Techlevel - more good equipment.
Anarchy, Feudal and Communist system is dangerous.
[5] Long range star map. Scrolling control is same.
[2] return to SS screen.
[1] - undock station
Mouse - heading.
LMB - laser. Laser shots heats system. Overheated laser cool down slowly (cursor turning to red)
RMB - Missile. For launch missile lock it first. Press Q, and cursor change to stylized X and aim to other ship. Locked target has brown background color.
w - throttle. Hold to move, use mouse to heading. (two versions, with rotating environment and smooth throttle was putted in garbage, because was unplayable)
Space Station has two zones - red and green. Red zone - restricted, do not get close. Green zone - docking port.
Yellow ships - neutrals. Red - enemy. You attack converts neutral to enemy.
H - HyperJump. Consumes fuel. Ship jump to another star system.
G -Galactic Hyper Jump. Consumes self. Ship jump to another galaxy.
E - ECM - electronic counter measures. Destroying missiles.
All star systems contain star, planet and space station.
Equipment for sale depends of star system techlevel.
ECM - TL2+
PulseLaser - TL3+
BeamLaser - TL4+
MilitaryLaser - TL10+
Galactic HD - TL10+
(Escape Pod feature-cuted)
Fuel and missiles available always.
Market prices and goods quantity generates based on TL, government type and economic type.
[PrintScr] make screen shot in %appdata%\Elite Roguelike\Screenshots\
Anywhere, at any time:
[Ctrl] - [1] Switch to English
[Ctrl] - [2] Switch to Russian
to be continued...
Manual.
In EliteRL you are control a space ship and can flight and fight.
Form start menu can be started two different games - classic Elite universe and random generated.
You start on space station, orbiting planet.
[3] - Equipment dock. Strategic tip - sold pulse laser, one missile and buy fuel scoop. Now, you can collect containers from destroyed ships and refueling from star's corona.
Scroll up and down for chose a goods/equipment.
left - sale, right - buy.
[4] Short range star map.
wasd or arrows for scroll.
hold shift for fast scroll
hold ctrl for accurate scroll
aim cursor to star and press Space to lock target star for hyper drive.
White stars in range. Gray stars - out of space. Red circle - reachable space with full tank. Blue - with current amount of fuel.
On right side - star system info.
High Techlevel - more good equipment.
Anarchy, Feudal and Communist system is dangerous.
[5] Long range star map. Scrolling control is same.
[2] return to SS screen.
[1] - undock station
Mouse - heading.
LMB - laser. Laser shots heats system. Overheated laser cool down slowly (cursor turning to red)
RMB - Missile. For launch missile lock it first. Press Q, and cursor change to stylized X and aim to other ship. Locked target has brown background color.
w - throttle. Hold to move, use mouse to heading. (two versions, with rotating environment and smooth throttle was putted in garbage, because was unplayable)
Space Station has two zones - red and green. Red zone - restricted, do not get close. Green zone - docking port.
Yellow ships - neutrals. Red - enemy. You attack converts neutral to enemy.
H - HyperJump. Consumes fuel. Ship jump to another star system.
G -Galactic Hyper Jump. Consumes self. Ship jump to another galaxy.
E - ECM - electronic counter measures. Destroying missiles.
All star systems contain star, planet and space station.
Equipment for sale depends of star system techlevel.
ECM - TL2+
PulseLaser - TL3+
BeamLaser - TL4+
MilitaryLaser - TL10+
Galactic HD - TL10+
(Escape Pod feature-cuted)
Fuel and missiles available always.
Market prices and goods quantity generates based on TL, government type and economic type.
[PrintScr] make screen shot in %appdata%\Elite Roguelike\Screenshots\
Anywhere, at any time:
[Ctrl] - [1] Switch to English
[Ctrl] - [2] Switch to Russian
to be continued...
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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Elite RL (7DRL 2013) Day 6
« on: March 17, 2013, 07:46:52 AM »
delayed End of Day 6.
Progress:
■■■■■ Elite classic galaxy generation
■■■■■ Elite classic trade items
■■■■■ Two languages support
■■■■■ Short range map
■■■■■ Galaxy map
■■■■■ Trade operations
■■■■■ Local space generation
■■■■■ Local space navigation
■■■■■ Main menu
■■■■□ Local space flight
■■■□□ Space station operations
■■■□□ Game mechanics
■■■■□ Ships data
■■□□□ Local space combat
■■□□□ Enemy and neutrals
■□□□□ Sound / Music
Ship selection
Probably couple parts will be feature-cuted.
Ship Explosion
Containers and alloys with smoke trails
Container destroyed (planet hit)
(Containers appear in radar)
//Fixed DropBox picture share
Progress:
■■■■■ Elite classic galaxy generation
■■■■■ Elite classic trade items
■■■■■ Two languages support
■■■■■ Short range map
■■■■■ Galaxy map
■■■■■ Trade operations
■■■■■ Local space generation
■■■■■ Local space navigation
■■■■■ Main menu
■■■■□ Local space flight
■■■□□ Space station operations
■■■□□ Game mechanics
■■■■□ Ships data
■■□□□ Local space combat
■■□□□ Enemy and neutrals
■□□□□ Sound / Music
Ship selection
Ship Explosion
Containers and alloys with smoke trails
Container destroyed (planet hit)
(Containers appear in radar)
//Fixed DropBox picture share
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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Re: Elite RL (7DRL 2013)
« on: March 16, 2013, 06:41:53 PM »
Thanks Jo, I do my best.
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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Elite RL (7DRL 2013) Day 5
« on: March 16, 2013, 07:00:47 AM »
delayed End of Day 5.
Progress:
■■■■■ Elite classic galaxy generation
■■■■■ Elite classic trade items
■■■■■ Two languages support
■■■■■ Short range map
■■■■■ Galaxy map
■■■■■ Trade operations
■■■■■ Local space generation
■■■■■ Local space navigation
■■■■■ Main menu
■■■□□ Local space flight
■■■□□ Space station operations
■■□□□ Game mechanics
■■□□□ Ships data
■□□□□ Local space combat
■□□□□ Enemy and neutrals
NPC ship
Damage inflicting, laser weapon class realization, NPC ships (completely brainless yet), ship course vector visualization.
//Fixed DropBox picture share
Progress:
■■■■■ Elite classic galaxy generation
■■■■■ Elite classic trade items
■■■■■ Two languages support
■■■■■ Short range map
■■■■■ Galaxy map
■■■■■ Trade operations
■■■■■ Local space generation
■■■■■ Local space navigation
■■■■■ Main menu
■■■□□ Local space flight
■■■□□ Space station operations
■■□□□ Game mechanics
■■□□□ Ships data
■□□□□ Local space combat
■□□□□ Enemy and neutrals
NPC ship
Damage inflicting, laser weapon class realization, NPC ships (completely brainless yet), ship course vector visualization.
//Fixed DropBox picture share
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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Elite RL (7DRL 2013) Day 4
« on: March 15, 2013, 03:20:30 AM »
End of Day 4.
Progress:
■■■■■ Elite classic galaxy generation
■■■■■ Elite classic trade items
■■■■■ Two languages support
■■■■■ Short range map
■■■■■ Galaxy map
■■■■■ Trade operations
■■■■■ Local space generation
■■■■■ Local space navigation
■■■■■ Main menu
■■■□□ Local space flight
■■□□□ Space station operations
■□□□□ Game mechanics
■□□□□ Ships data
Today not many visual works, but more "paper works" for game mechanics and ships stats.
Space station with visualization of docking sector
Attempt to get close from red sector will activate space station defense.
Sector can has different radius and size (depends of equipment/stats/skills/perks/etc). Green sector always directed backward.
//Fixed DropBox picture share
Progress:
■■■■■ Elite classic galaxy generation
■■■■■ Elite classic trade items
■■■■■ Two languages support
■■■■■ Short range map
■■■■■ Galaxy map
■■■■■ Trade operations
■■■■■ Local space generation
■■■■■ Local space navigation
■■■■■ Main menu
■■■□□ Local space flight
■■□□□ Space station operations
■□□□□ Game mechanics
■□□□□ Ships data
Today not many visual works, but more "paper works" for game mechanics and ships stats.
Space station with visualization of docking sector
Attempt to get close from red sector will activate space station defense.
Sector can has different radius and size (depends of equipment/stats/skills/perks/etc). Green sector always directed backward.
//Fixed DropBox picture share
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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Re: Elite RL (7DRL 2013)
« on: March 14, 2013, 04:18:42 PM »
Day 4 thinking's.
Basic scheme of character progress in roguelike:
1. Do something for
2. Gain experience points (Exp), then
3. Spend Exp to improve character’s stats/skills/perks/etc
4. GoTo 1
5. …
6. PROFIT!
Exp value easily balanced for combat actions. For non-combat actions, determine Exp value is little bit complicate.
In EliteRL player have two main activities: Fight and Trade. And I think, I know, what and how using for measuring of experience. Money
Money = Experience points
Successful trade operation gives you money.
Successful combat operation gives you bounty (Money) and/or loot -> money.
Unsuccessful actions take away you money.
Money is a measure of character (player) success.
Money can be spending for buy weapon, goods (for sell late and increase money) or skills.
Balancing.
Test variant 1.
Player spends all time for trade and accumulate huge amount of money/Exp
a) Skills/Stats/Traits limited by combat rating and can’t be increasing unlimited.
b) Huge cash in ship’s safe will attract swarm of low-caliber outlaws.
Test variant 2.
Player spends all time for combat and fast grows in combat rating.
a) High combat rating push player to face high danger enemy. Without adequate skills/equipment player will have lot of troubles in combat.
Looks fine for me.
Add:
After another meditation, after idea about experience in EliteRL, I found my previous plans about character’s class incurious. “Trader”, ”Pirate”, “Adventurer” - is too primitive.
At start, player wills choice a ship. And the ship is a class of character. Depends of type, ship has different cargo hold, weapons class, speed, turn rate, etc. And ship’s type impacts a player behavior in game. So, ship’s stats/”skills” can be improved for money, without discordance.
Probably, ship can be changed during play. For example, if ship has been destroyed and character escapes in escape pod, after docking, player can choose new ship type.
Basic scheme of character progress in roguelike:
1. Do something for
2. Gain experience points (Exp), then
3. Spend Exp to improve character’s stats/skills/perks/etc
4. GoTo 1
5. …
6. PROFIT!
Exp value easily balanced for combat actions. For non-combat actions, determine Exp value is little bit complicate.
In EliteRL player have two main activities: Fight and Trade. And I think, I know, what and how using for measuring of experience. Money
Money = Experience points
Successful trade operation gives you money.
Successful combat operation gives you bounty (Money) and/or loot -> money.
Unsuccessful actions take away you money.
Money is a measure of character (player) success.
Money can be spending for buy weapon, goods (for sell late and increase money) or skills.
Balancing.
Test variant 1.
Player spends all time for trade and accumulate huge amount of money/Exp
a) Skills/Stats/Traits limited by combat rating and can’t be increasing unlimited.
b) Huge cash in ship’s safe will attract swarm of low-caliber outlaws.
Test variant 2.
Player spends all time for combat and fast grows in combat rating.
a) High combat rating push player to face high danger enemy. Without adequate skills/equipment player will have lot of troubles in combat.
Looks fine for me.
Add:
After another meditation, after idea about experience in EliteRL, I found my previous plans about character’s class incurious. “Trader”, ”Pirate”, “Adventurer” - is too primitive.
At start, player wills choice a ship. And the ship is a class of character. Depends of type, ship has different cargo hold, weapons class, speed, turn rate, etc. And ship’s type impacts a player behavior in game. So, ship’s stats/”skills” can be improved for money, without discordance.
Probably, ship can be changed during play. For example, if ship has been destroyed and character escapes in escape pod, after docking, player can choose new ship type.
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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Re: Elite RL (7DRL 2013)
« on: March 14, 2013, 01:36:36 PM »Thumbs up.
I am looking forward to this. I'm fan of trading and Elite so I hope that you will create a great roguelike recreation.
Thanks, dweller, I will try.
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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Re: Elite RL (7DRL 2013)
« on: March 14, 2013, 01:34:33 PM »Looks very interesting. Although I'm not a huge fan of directly copying another game's world, it's nice to see scifi games around here.
Quote from: Salvador Dalí
“Begin by learning to draw and paint like the old masters. After that, you can do as you like; everyone will respect you.”
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Also, those progress indicators are just ridiculously pretty.Thanks. I was "invent" it for IGDC progress reports long time ago
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Btw, I challenge your planet pics with a shot of a star in my last year's 7DRLWell, main challenge to create eye-candy planet in EGA 16 colors.:
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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Elite RL (7DRL 2013) Day 3
« on: March 14, 2013, 01:42:08 AM »
End of Day 3.
Progress:
■■■■■ Elite classic galaxy generation
■■■■■ Elite classic trade items
■■■■■ Two languages support
■■■■■ Short range map
■■■■■ Galaxy map
■■■■■ Trade operations
■■■■□ Local space generation
■■□□□ Local space flight
■■■■■ Local space navigation
■■■■■ Main menu
Final planet realization + Navigation
Navigation include ruler on top, and around radar mapper.
Ruler display projection of "what I can see from @ to mouse pointer"
Radar mapper displays direction to surrounding objects.
Star Corona, exosphere and photosphere with granules (divine Perlin Noise)
Will be used for fuel scooping.
Main menu
//Fixed DropBox picture share
Progress:
■■■■■ Elite classic galaxy generation
■■■■■ Elite classic trade items
■■■■■ Two languages support
■■■■■ Short range map
■■■■■ Galaxy map
■■■■■ Trade operations
■■■■□ Local space generation
■■□□□ Local space flight
■■■■■ Local space navigation
■■■■■ Main menu
Final planet realization + Navigation
Navigation include ruler on top, and around radar mapper.
Ruler display projection of "what I can see from @ to mouse pointer"
| · = 5° | | | ¤ = Star |
| ▪ = 45° | | | ○ = Planet |
| + = 90° | | | ♦ = Station |
Radar mapper displays direction to surrounding objects.
Star Corona, exosphere and photosphere with granules (divine Perlin Noise)
Will be used for fuel scooping.
Main menu
//Fixed DropBox picture share
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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Re: Elite RL (7DRL 2013)
« on: March 13, 2013, 07:28:35 PM »It's spelled "Witch-space"Thanks, Darren, fixed. (let me know, please, if found anything else)
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Looks cool and all, but what's roguelike about this beyond ASCII representation?New game can be started in two options - classic Elite universe, or classic-Elite-universe-but-random-seed. Each time it generate completely new universe.
Player can choose three "classes" of character - Trader, Pirate, Adventurer (with different bonuses)
I planing make set of perks (or feats) for character progress.
Each "levels" of character (Harmless, Mostly Harmless, Poor, Below Average, etc) will open perks for "buy"
And most important, the "@", of course
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Traditional Roguelikes (Turn Based) / Elite RL (7DRL 2013) Day 2
« on: March 13, 2013, 04:07:50 AM »
End of Day 2.
Progress:
■■■■■ Elite classic galaxy generation
■■■■■ Elite classic trade items
■■■■■ Two languages support
■■■■■ Short range map
■■■■■ Galaxy map
■■■■□ Trade operations
■■■■□ Local space generation
■■□□□ Local space flight
■■□□□ Local space navigation
First planet realization (bored...)
Second planet realization (much better) Planet with atmosphere (animated)
Trading screen
Final short range map
Red circle - Full HyperDrive range
Blue circle - HyperDrive range with current fuel amount
P.S.
Sorry for numerous pictures per post, but spoiler tag not works here.
//Fix DropBox picture share
Progress:
■■■■■ Elite classic galaxy generation
■■■■■ Elite classic trade items
■■■■■ Two languages support
■■■■■ Short range map
■■■■■ Galaxy map
■■■■□ Trade operations
■■■■□ Local space generation
■■□□□ Local space flight
■■□□□ Local space navigation
First planet realization (bored...)
Second planet realization (much better) Planet with atmosphere (animated)
Trading screen
Final short range map
Red circle - Full HyperDrive range
Blue circle - HyperDrive range with current fuel amount
P.S.
Sorry for numerous pictures per post, but spoiler tag not works here.
//Fix DropBox picture share
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