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jofadda

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So the wikipedia page lists roguelites as roguelikes
« on: June 16, 2019, 09:05:39 PM »
Another anon roguelike fan and I are trying to inform wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roguelike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Roguelike) that roguelites are not roguelikes given that they are not seen as such by areas dedicated to roguelikes such as here, reddit, roguebasin, the IRLDB etc. Can I get any help with this, either in references or in backup?  :P

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Re: So the wikipedia page lists roguelites as roguelikes
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2019, 12:24:37 PM »
Why waste your time. Wikipedia isn't a reliable source of information anyway, I think most people (should) understand it. I've seen articles that in the same page contradict themselves. Also, I'm beginning to think that let everyone call their game what they want, players will decide what they like or what they consider a roguelike. Even more so, we as developers should show a good example by creating games that are in fact roguelikes. Let's not stop at 7DRLs or smaller games but continue development and try to reach the roguelike standard. It's difficult, but it can be done.

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Re: So the wikipedia page lists roguelites as roguelikes
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2019, 09:17:17 PM »
The issue there is that people take that, steam and other sources that bastardize the term roguelike as gospel and then shove roguelites into the genre bogging it down further and dragging it further from the source material. If you created a racing game with randomized tracks and claimed it was a "roguelike" just based on the proc-gen factor of tracks alone most people these days wouldnt bat an eye, and it's sources like that that are the issue here.

Furthermore why let the term continue to be bastardized? Why not flag the "roguelike" tag on steams roguelites that have it? Why not actually put up a fight? If we dont the genre is going to die out.

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Re: So the wikipedia page lists roguelites as roguelikes
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2019, 02:00:40 PM »
Why not actually put up a fight? If we dont the genre is going to die out.

Roguelikes never were a popular genre. I think in the past even fewer people played them than now. I don't care what some people call roguelikes, they and everyone else knows they are wrong. I don't know why you should waste your time fighting people who are like those flat earth believers. It's not worth it.

I think one of the problems is that there are not that many roguelike developers, because making money seems to  be more important these days, so creating games that are easier to sell is the thing. Even better if you can trick people by calling your game a roguelike it can work.