I am mostly just making conversation.
You are trying to convince hardcore roguelike developers that some not-roguelikes are in fact roguelikes. Good luck with that.
I wasn't expecting a concession, it is an argument on the internet after all. I just disagree and wanted to say my piece.
People don't have to be convinced, and they probably wont be from just a few posts on a forum.
But if I don't say something I think it's going to be nagging at me until I do.
Also as a hardcore roguelike player, I do like a challenge.