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Are the classic "Trek" games roguelikes?
« on: February 21, 2014, 11:32:14 PM »
It occurred to me the other day that maybe they are! In case you're wondering what I'm talking about, I mean games like EGA Trek and Star Fleet I, in which you command a ship on a grid-based map blasting Klingons or whatever the enemies of the week are with phasers and photon torpedoes. Sure, you don't move the ship with the numpad or anything, but the map is grid-based and procedural, and there's definitely permadeath! (Well, except in Star Fleet I, where you have some persistent scoring mechanisms between games.)
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Re: Are the classic "Trek" games roguelikes?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2014, 02:04:49 AM »
Those old games were an inspiration to me. But is it a roguelike? No idea. Good games.

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Re: Are the classic "Trek" games roguelikes?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2014, 05:59:51 AM »
Yes, you wouldn't necessarily be wrong if you called them roguelikes.  See the wikipedia page, which effectively says all you need is one feature attributed to roguelikes.  And that roguelike-like means the same thing.  Recent forum threads have also been undiscerning about what qualifies.

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Re: Are the classic "Trek" games roguelikes?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2014, 06:21:49 AM »
What a sick, sad world we inhabit where people can call games roguelikes without retribution.  :-\

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Re: Are the classic "Trek" games roguelikes?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2014, 07:08:46 PM »
What a sick, sad world we inhabit where people can call games roguelikes without retribution.  :-\
Go edit the wikipedia page and add in some form of punishment if it bothers you.
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Re: Are the classic "Trek" games roguelikes?
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2014, 07:50:00 AM »
Anything with randomness gets called a roguelike or 'roguelike-inspired' these days.

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Re: Are the classic "Trek" games roguelikes?
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2014, 07:55:46 AM »
What a sick, sad world we inhabit where people can call games roguelikes without retribution.  :-\
Go edit the wikipedia page and add in some form of punishment if it bothers you.
What a great idea, I wish I had thought of it. I'll leave the honour to you.

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Re: Are the classic "Trek" games roguelikes?
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2014, 07:03:38 PM »
What a sick, sad world we inhabit where people can call games roguelikes without retribution.  :-\
Go edit the wikipedia page and add in some form of punishment if it bothers you.
What a great idea, I wish I had thought of it. I'll leave the honour to you.
It's your opinion, not mine.  I'm happy for the Trek games to be called roguelikes.  Or even for Tetris for that matter.  To be honest, I have no idea where your retribution line even came from.

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Re: Are the classic "Trek" games roguelikes?
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2014, 09:43:32 PM »
What a sick, sad world we inhabit where people can call games roguelikes without retribution.  :-\
Go edit the wikipedia page and add in some form of punishment if it bothers you.
What a great idea, I wish I had thought of it. I'll leave the honour to you.
It's your opinion, not mine.  I'm happy for the Trek games to be called roguelikes.  Or even for Tetris for that matter.  To be honest, I have no idea where your retribution line even came from.
You clearly don't realise just how serious this is.

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Re: Are the classic "Trek" games roguelikes?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2014, 04:58:40 PM »
What a sick, sad world we inhabit where people can call games roguelikes without retribution.  :-\
Go edit the wikipedia page and add in some form of punishment if it bothers you.
What a great idea, I wish I had thought of it. I'll leave the honour to you.
It's your opinion, not mine.  I'm happy for the Trek games to be called roguelikes.  Or even for Tetris for that matter.  To be honest, I have no idea where your retribution line even came from.
You clearly don't realise just how serious this is.

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Re: Are the classic "Trek" games roguelikes?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2014, 11:26:50 PM »
Yeah, as soon as people started saying that swords and sorcery style fantasy and console interfaces are not integral to the genre (which seems to have happened in the 90s), the term was basically doomed to meaninglessness in the long term. Soon people are going to be calling mad-libs roguelike. Flappy bird with randomized pipe positions? Roguelike or at least roguelike-like!

On the plus side, it does draw attention to more traditionally roguelike stuff, albeit in a small, oblique way.