Dwarf Fortress

[Vanguard]

The new version is out.

I haven't tried it yet, but the new site looks nice.

Edit:  Really?  No replies?

Or is everyone too busy playing it?

[dweller]

 

[dweller interrupted reading - new df version seen]

Whoa! I did expect that it will be very soon, as everything has been green in development branch.
Going to play.

[Fenrir]

[dweller interrupted reading - new df version seen]

Fenrir cancels browse forum: Interrupted by incorrect Dwarf-Fortress message syntax
Fenrir has become enraged!

I think green in the right color. It has been more than a year since I last played Dwarf Fortress.

[mariodonick]

Edit:  Really?  No replies?

Dwarf Fortress must be a great game, and I have lots of respect for its devs. It is, however, way to complex for me to get into it :-/

[Fenrir]

So you've never tried it?

EDIT: Stupid question. "Dwarf Fortress must be a great game"  Of course you haven't.

Have you looked at the tutorials an the wiki? Despite all the people whining about the UI, it's not really that difficult. I got along just fine without any tutorials.

[getter77]

Many people are waiting for the bigfixed/optimization merged version to come---as some people's FPS and mem issues have rendered it unplayable until such things get worked out.

I hope Capnduck does another Youtube beginner's guide as a great many new things are at work in the game now.

[mariodonick]

So you've never tried it?

EDIT: Stupid question. "Dwarf Fortress must be a great game"  Of course you haven't.

I have tried it and from what I saw, I assume that it _must_ be a great game, but I can not definitly state such an opinion without having played it for a longer time. And some memory and speed issue with my computer hinder me to do so.

[AmnEn]

whining about the UI

Well, what can I say, the Interface IS rubbish. It's a great game with plenty of options and I love it but the interface couldn't be any more useless. Comments about the UI are not whining, they're valid concerns. I'm strictly talking Fortress Mode here.
Sadly you can't improve the interface with the current crowd around, even mentioning things like organized menustructure and context sensitivity will make them want to tear a whole universe of new behinds. I guess they like DF as niche as it is.

[dweller]

Fenrir cancels browse forum: Interrupted by incorrect Dwarf-Fortress message syntax
Fenrir has become enraged!

Nah... I has been too excited to check if syntax is correct. I hope you don't throw tantrum now.

About interface. I haven't played it for very long time, but I remember that when exiting menu I should press escape button and that irritates me very very much. Also I can't unpause when inside menu. Is this bug, or feature? I am running linux so maybe wine is what I should blame.

[Vanguard]

Well, what can I say, the Interface IS rubbish.

Yeah, I've never seen anyone as bad at making UIs as Tarn is.  It does make the game much worse than it could be.  I have a friend who doesn't play DF anymore because he doesn't like putting up with the interface.

Sadly you can't improve the interface with the current crowd around, even mentioning things like organized menustructure and context sensitivity will make them want to tear a whole universe of new behinds.

The Dwarf Fortress forums are weird.  The fans there don't tolerate complaining about anything Toady does.  Find a new bug?  They'll start talking about how great it is.  Decide that you don't intend to donate any more cash? They'll donate twice as much just to spite you.  These are people who decided that the best way to show their dissatisfaction with Toady's slow release schedule was to throw thousands of dollars at him.

It's unfortunate, because even though DF definitely has strong points, it also have serious problems where Tarn desperately needs criticism, but never receives it because his army of sycophants shout it down as quickly as they can.

Also I can't unpause when inside menu.

The game has always paused within menus.  It'd be nice if that was optional, but it's not.

[george]

These are people who decided that the best way to show their dissatisfaction with Toady's slow release schedule was to throw thousands of dollars at him.

hilarious 

[Fenrir]

I'm not saying the UI couldn't be better, but it seems to bother some people MUCH more than others. I'm one of those people who isn't really bothered, and would rather see new features and bugfixes rather than have Toady work on improving the UI.

Fenrir begins to scratch behind his left ear with a hind foot.

Of course, I am weird.

[Vanguard]

I set up equal sized armies of dwarves with steel long swords and dwarves with adamantine long swords against each other in arena mode.  The ones using steel swords won every time.

Edit: Yeah.  I just did an otherwise symmetrical battle of 100 steel dwarves vs 100 adamantine dwarves.  Not only did the ones with steel long swords win, but there were like 20 of them left standing (though they did all end up bleeding to death eventually).  The new material system is borked.

Edit 2: With unskilled dwarves, steel long swords always win.  With grandmaster swordsdwarves, the adamantine swords win.

[george]

I read the DF dev logs off of Planet Roguelike, and my mind always boggles with the number of things that he has to keep straight...he must have a switch statement 1000 light-years long  .

[Vanguard]

Slade two-handed swords make every other weapon look like a bad joke.