Most complicated Rougelike ?

[TidusBlade]

I really like those extremely complicated games, and was just wanting to ask which is the most complicated and hardest or just most complicated rougelike you guys ever played or know 

[corremn]

Although you should explain what you mean by complicated. Complicated gameplay/commands/skills, complicated as you have initially no idea how to play the game or my guess complicated rules.

You might want to give Incursion a go. Although if you are familiar with d20 and d&d then its not complicated at all, but has potential to be the most command intensive game ever. http://www.incursion-roguelike.org/

Crawl is also complicated in a sence that it is damn hard without getting a feel for it.

[TidusBlade]

OH right, I meant complicated as in most options, commands and freedom
Thanx for Incursion, ill give it a try  I tried Crawl, a was suprised at the amount of races/classes +

[Anvilfolk]

In Crawl I end up just having three or so major race/class choices I make. The rest is up to gameplay and luck! Most of the major roguelikes are complex enough for you to have fun with... but if you want true ASCII-complexity: Dwarf Fortress! Not a roguelike per se, but it's a nice little bit of awesome goodness *g*

Also... ROGUE-like, ROGUE, not ROUGE! *fumes*

[Adral]

If by complicated you are meaning obscure commands, obscure interactions and general silliness, my vote is for Nethack.

For freedom, Dwarf Fortress.

For options, some Angband variants like ToME (although having lots of options is also bad, in my opinion)

I hope that helped

[TidusBlade]

I tried Incursion yesterday, the options intimidated me  Ill probably try later when I got time though.
Dwarf Fortress sounds sweet  Ill try to find it for Linux.

[Adral]

Dwarf Fortress sounds sweet  Ill try to find it for Linux.

It works flawlessly under wine here. You can try that.

[tseckington]

Incursion and Dwarf Fortress, though they really frighten me.

[Slash]

Geadhead can also get a bit complicated with all that mecha parts and stuff

[Anvilfolk]

Wow, yeah, I totally forgot about that!

The gearheads are awesome, though sometimes it can be a little too daunting. It's easy to get lost, and not be sure exactly what's best.

[Ex]

I really like those extremely complicated games, and was just wanting to ask which is the most complicated and hardest or just most complicated rougelike you guys ever played or know 

Nethack is by far the most complicated game I have ever played.

[Gamer_2k4]

Nethack is by far the most complicated game I have ever played.

Try Incursion.  It is the definition of complexity.

[Slash]

What about OMEGA? I wish it was still on development (more than a frozen sourceforge project..)

[Adral]

What about OMEGA? I wish it was still on development (more than a frozen sourceforge project..)

It's open source, so if you really like it you can pick up the code and continue it. Maybe someone will pick it up and continue it someday, look at Linley's Dungeon Crawl -> Stone Soup for a practical example of this

[Lavastine]

Dwarf Fortress sounds sweet  Ill try to find it for Linux.

As complicated as Dwarf Fortress is now, in a couple weeks it gonna increase by a factor of 10 or something. Though who knows if that will work under wine or not.