Author Topic: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?  (Read 27343 times)

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These guys who were developing The Chronicles of Doryen, best known today as the game libtcod was developed for, pretty much called it quits, they say, because the combat system they came up with was too tedious to build a game around and they couldn't come up with anything better.

My question is: What was this combat system? Has anyone actually played the game?

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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2017, 11:15:10 AM »
Why can't you play the game and figure it out yourself. It's not available for your platform?

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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2017, 02:55:56 PM »
Why can't you play the game and figure it out yourself. It's not available for your platform?

I don't think there's a publicly available playable version.

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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2017, 08:48:09 PM »
Yeah, this was one of those situations where whatever went down was all internal until things finally went boom underground---like the sad fate of Fallow World.   :-\
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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2017, 09:23:28 AM »
I don't think there's a publicly available playable version.

Who cares then? It's like talking about Kaduria and wondering what kind of combat system it has. What is the point?

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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2017, 08:50:29 PM »
I don't think there's a publicly available playable version.

Who cares then? It's like talking about Kaduria and wondering what kind of combat system it has. What is the point?

For Kaduria, sure. For tcod, a number of reasons could be listed, like historical interest, learning from past design experiments, etc. How is the combat system in Kaduria, by the way? ;)

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PS. For what it's worth, I never played tcod, but remember it always looked very pretty in screen shots, especially the generated worlds.
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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2017, 09:48:30 PM »
How is the combat system in Kaduria, by the way?

Not ready. My plan was always not to make another D&D clone but maybe more "realistic" system, possibly depending more on ranged combat. I don't know, I always thought that bashing @ against everything until done was too simple and careless.

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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2017, 01:51:02 PM »
It looked like there was something playable, like this pyromancer thing, but I didn't see how to get it and thought someone who follows these things more closely might have already tried it.

Indeed, my interest was in seeing the specifics of an "imaginative" failed design.

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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2017, 01:10:25 PM »
Well who are those developers? Don't they have like e-mail or something where you should have asked first. Yeah, let's ask on a forum if someone knows what was the deal.

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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2017, 11:20:07 PM »
Are you posting on a forum to complain about posting on a forum?

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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2017, 04:46:16 PM »
Are you asking a question to avoid answering to my questions?

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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2018, 04:44:28 AM »
Well who are those developers? Don't they have like e-mail or something where you should have asked first. Yeah, let's ask on a forum if someone knows what was the deal.
Don't you have elsewhere to share your butthurt feels? If you don't know the answer why not shut the fuck up?

I remember that game btw and the hype. It was supposed to be THE shit.

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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2018, 10:58:37 AM »
It's in the Archive but the site and downloads for Arena/Pyromancer are still up anyway:

http://roguecentral.org/doryen/games/arena/

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Re: Doryen/The Chronicles of Doryen/Doryen Arena/pyromancer? What's the deal?
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2018, 04:29:32 PM »
If you don't know the answer why not shut the fuck up?

You know the answer, then?

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I'll try to reach jice for comments about this :)