[REQ]Roguelike programming for dummies...

[Anvilfolk]

Now I'm curious. What do they use it for?

We used asm in one of the classes at university, just for the sake of having the basis and understanding what programs usually compile to. We only did real basic stuff, though, and only went as far as calling asm "functions" from C programs.

[Gamer_2k4]

multi view modes. (planned to be the first OS with a way to set up the OS as a 3d firstperson OS (for diehard gamers but takes a high system requirement)

Ok, there's cool, and then there's practical.  Eventually practicality will win.  Sure, the first time or two it might be fun running through halls (directory trees I assume) to access your files, but eventually it will just be needless memory usage for something that can be accomplished by clicking the mouse two or three times.

[Anvilfolk]

I agree with you, Gamer. What I want is a functional, responsive OS.

However, graphical enhancing sytems (?) like Beryl and Compiz (and Vista) are gaining popularity. I see a bunch of people with that stuff installed all the time. Ugh. Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. Ubuntu now brings compiz by default too - I'm thinking of switching to Debian... I'm worried about an OS that brings that kind of thing by default.

Also, programming an OS must be really interesting, especially from an educational point of view. I've always rather enjoyed most of the low-level stuff the university throws at me I do wish you the best of luck.

(I'm being nicer because I actually got 10h of sleep today, unlike the 5h average I've been on )

[scaught]

However, graphical enhancing sytems (?) like Beryl and Compiz (and Vista) are gaining popularity. I see a bunch of people with that stuff installed all the time. Ugh. Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. Ubuntu now brings compiz by default too - I'm thinking of switching to Debian... I'm worried about an OS that brings that kind of thing by default.

The nice thing about compiz (beryl has since been reintegrated into compiz as compiz-fusion) is it's entirely up to you as to what effects, if any, are applied.  The real benefit is the acceleration of the rendering of the desktop - so even if you decide to use no window decoration and no special effects, you're more than likely getting a speed (and therefore usability) boost from just having compiz.

That having been said, I love the wobbly windows.  When I'm bored or am thinking about a problem, grabbing and shaking a window to watch it bounce is amusing.  I even find myself trying to do it on my XP machine at work (to a disappointing end).

As for distros, have you considered Gentoo?  I've been 100% Linux at home, all with Gentoo.  The ability to handpick which parts of packages get installed and to have optimized builds for suboptimal systems (my SVN server is a repurposed original XBox) is a joy to see realized.

[dopefish7590]

multi view modes. (planned to be the first OS with a way to set up the OS as a 3d firstperson OS (for diehard gamers but takes a high system requirement)

Ok, there's cool, and then there's practical.  Eventually practicality will win.  Sure, the first time or two it might be fun running through halls (directory trees I assume) to access your files, but eventually it will just be needless memory usage for something that can be accomplished by clicking the mouse two or three times.

i hope you realize that ive already got it somewhat working

Also, programming an OS must be really interesting, especially from an educational point of view. I've always rather enjoyed most of the low-level stuff the university throws at me  I do wish you the best of luck.

yea its cool stuff, and its amazing what you figure out



now back on topic really. i guess I shouldent of posted that stuff because its hijacking the thread