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Game Discussion => Classic Roguelikes => Topic started by: Angloth on March 25, 2016, 10:14:43 PM

Title: Roguelike with good/advanced combat-system?
Post by: Angloth on March 25, 2016, 10:14:43 PM

Hey guys, my first post here!

Just got into NetHack, and its definetly a fascinating and fun game!
I do find that i dont find the combat terribly compelling and i was wondering if you guys could reccomend me a similar roguelike but with a little more elaborate combat system?

Thanks guys!

Title: Re: Roguelike with good/advanced combat-system?
Post by: Krice on March 25, 2016, 10:41:56 PM

Sadly no such game exist yet. At least not if based on traditional role-playing systems (derived mostly from D&D).

Title: Re: Roguelike with good/advanced combat-system?
Post by: Aleksanderus on March 26, 2016, 07:59:12 AM

Have you heard about dwarf fortress adventure mode? There is a very advanced combat system you can look at one of my screenshots:
(http://i66.tinypic.com/2lpfup.png)
And that's not all! Enemies can bleed out, vomit (and then dehydrate and die) and you can do very brutal finishers

Title: Re: Roguelike with good/advanced combat-system?
Post by: akeley on March 26, 2016, 10:27:37 AM

It`s true that RL combat might look simplistic compared to standard RPGs, something that put me off initially ("wha, you bump into something and that`s it?"). But this is a deceptive angle, you need to adjust your mindset a little bit. Nethack is just not a very combat-oriented RL to start with.

I`d say in roguelikes the choice of positioning, equipment,  actual foe (you shouldn`t fight everybody!) and other factors make up for "combat" instead of traditional step-by-step cRPG menu driven action. Once you`re face to face with your foe it`s down to bumping and RNG mostly (talking classic melee character of course, spellcasters, sneaksies and such might differ)

Try Sil for probably the best tactical fights in the RL world. I also love fighting - Crawl (DCSS or original), Caves Of Qud, Brogue are also good tips for intelligent carnage.

Title: Re: Roguelike with good/advanced combat-system?
Post by: Tilded on March 27, 2016, 09:05:29 PM

I second Sil. I haven't played IVAN (http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=IVAN), but I've heard it has a deep combat system.

Title: Re: Roguelike with good/advanced combat-system?
Post by: kipar on March 30, 2016, 06:35:13 PM

Incursion has pretty detailed implementation of AD&D mechanics (more complex then e.g. in Neverwinter Nights games).
Tome4 has pretty complex combat system, comparable with modern hack&slash games (maybe even too complex as gameplay becomes closer to a Diablo-style games).

Title: Re: Roguelike with good/advanced combat-system?
Post by: Samildanach on May 13, 2016, 12:31:29 PM

Seems to me that in terms of what you actually do moment to moment during combat, ToME4 is probably the one with the most going on.