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Re: The Veins of the Earth development feedback BETA 13
« Reply #300 on: October 13, 2016, 09:54:24 AM »
I ported the dialogue system from the T-Engine version so you can now chat to non-hostile NPCs.

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I got a ton of stuff done in the last couple of days even though I am a slow coder and an even slower spriter.

The character dialogue now handles the situation where you don't speak the NPC's language better. Your answers don't get scrambled in any case. You just don't get any of the normal answers, just a [Leave] option which closes the dialog screen. If you do speak the language, the answers now feature a small note telling you which skill they test for (i.e. [Bluff], [Diplomacy]).


Beginnings of a character creation screen

I was inspired by ToEE's character creation I saw in a gameplay vid on YT. I think this is the only cRPG game with randomly rolled stats where you first roll and then assign every one of the results to one of the stats. All the other games I can recall (BG1-2, IWDII, PS:T, NWN1-2, Angband, Incursion) didn't allow you to reassign the rolls. If you got a high roll but it got assigned to a less-than-useful stat, time to reroll. Oh, the number of times I rolled to get a 18/100 STR in BG1... :D

The HUD now features a body picture - I used a screenshot of Deus Ex 1 as a reference. The picture is grayscale and colored by LOVE's color functions, so I'll be able to recolor it on the fly once I hook up some more code to it. The new ruleset features HP per body part (head, torso, 2 arms, 2 legs) so the color of your torso in the pic will tell you how damaged your torso is.

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Re: The Veins of the Earth development feedback BETA 13
« Reply #301 on: October 13, 2016, 10:14:11 AM »
You should definitely try The The Temple of Elemental Evil too. It's fairly interesting as it's really turn-based (combatants are queued) compared to BG's and such.

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Re: The Veins of the Earth development feedback BETA 13
« Reply #302 on: October 13, 2016, 10:38:17 AM »
You should definitely try The The Temple of Elemental Evil too. It's fairly interesting as it's really turn-based (combatants are queued) compared to BG's and such.

I wanted to, but it's very hard to get hold of here and now (I somehow missed it when it was released :(), plus it's buggy. The only way to fix some of the bugs is to hunt down a mod... which changes some of the gameplay in a way many people don't like.
So I just stick to watching YT gameplay videos :)

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Re: The Veins of the Earth development feedback BETA 13
« Reply #303 on: October 13, 2016, 11:50:11 AM »
You should definitely try The The Temple of Elemental Evil too. It's fairly interesting as it's really turn-based (combatants are queued) compared to BG's and such.

I wanted to, but it's very hard to get hold of here and now (I somehow missed it when it was released :(), plus it's buggy. The only way to fix some of the bugs is to hunt down a mod... which changes some of the gameplay in a way many people don't like.
So I just stick to watching YT gameplay videos :)

You can get it from GOG for 5 euros and there's circle of 8 mod that's the only thing necessary. You can toggle stuff you don't want off.

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Re: The Veins of the Earth development feedback BETA 13
« Reply #304 on: October 13, 2016, 12:12:07 PM »
There is also this which undertakes some fundamental overhauls from the lowest possible levels previously impossible and aims to carry the game forward in a big way:

http://www.moddb.com/mods/temple1/

Somehow missed about the big change to step back from d20 and into dVarious---makes sense with how you are going about it/ease of momentum though and easily a prime choice given how little is out there.   8)
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Re: The Veins of the Earth development feedback BETA 13
« Reply #305 on: October 23, 2016, 07:13:17 PM »
Since I last posted, I have nearly finished the game's UI. The lower bar (menu bar/hotbar) currently allows you to make a ranged attack, with the usual caveats (need a bow and arrows). I renamed hp/wounds to Endurance and Health, to be clearer for players. There is now a working viewport, which means our dungeons can be bigger than one screen, and the map GUI elements draw properly on it without weird offsets.

Monster turns are more performant and synced with the debug text in upper right, and there is a player-oriented turn order display in upper left of the map.

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The big news is: I heard back from Shockbolt regarding his 64x64 Angband tileset. His reply was positive, so I sat down and implemented something that's been tickling the back of my brain ever since I saw the capabilities of LOVE2D.

http://i.imgur.com/I0kvAWy.gifv
Zooming in (64x64) or out (32x32) at will - an animated GIF

You press Shift + to zoom in and Shift - to zoom out. For those who don't know, + and - are the keys right next to numbers, above the letter keys. The map UI scales to fit (the grid, the border around moused-over tile, the ellipses indicating the actor's attitude, the damage splashes).

You can see the tiles for the actors change, but not for items, which are offset a bit compared to 32x32, and terrain is simply scaled up for now (however I plan to find some good-looking walls in the bigger size). So it's not simply "scale up stuff" or "change the whole tileset" (as in T-Engine).

I am thinking on what to name the two modes - "zoomed in" and "zoomed out" sounds silly. I plan to implement some indicators that would be visible only in the "zoomed in" mode (because of the larger amount of space per tile, simply), such as a number telling you how many items are there in a tile or a small icon indicator (8x8?) for monsters which have special abilities/templates/whatever of some kind. (Said special abilities/templates aren't implemented yet)

Link to a post to which a .love file is attached for those who want to goof around: https://love2d.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=204900#p204900. You'll need LOVE2D installed to run it. Sorry, I can make a standalone build only for Windows, and as usual, I plan for the game to be available for all platforms. Besides it's WIP, so going to the trouble of making a standalone right now is... well.

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Re: The Veins of the Earth development feedback BETA 13
« Reply #306 on: October 23, 2016, 08:33:25 PM »
There's always good old Tactical Zoom or Focus for a name.
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Re: The Veins of the Earth development feedback BETA 13
« Reply #307 on: January 10, 2017, 10:35:29 PM »
Even if you shift away from OGL as it does, the sheer amazement and shock value of this latest OGL happening out of nowhere is sure to amuse~   8)

http://store.steampowered.com/app/576770/
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Re: The Veins of the Earth development feedback BETA 13
« Reply #308 on: January 21, 2017, 01:53:12 PM »
Thanks getter! It looks amazing but all the screens/vids on the page are in Chinese and I can barely read around 50 characters :P

Haven't been here in ages since there isn't much to report, I was experimenting with Unreal Engine 4 and c++. To be frank, I am still much better in Lua and I have taken a look at Veins code yesterday as I was making a little one-day experiment in Lua again. The experiment succeeded :)

As for Veins, I seriously need to sit down and work out a good level generator since the libraries I included are giving me the 'narrow 1 tile wide corridor' kind of a dungeon, often ending in a dead-end. Also there is a bug that I need to figure out, the map doesn't redraw properly when changing dungeon level, so the first turn on a new level is made completely blindly.

But well, if I could make a road generator, first in blueprints then in c++ in ue4, I should be able to generate a good dungeon, eh? Tile-based stuff is SO much easier than vectors.....

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Re: The Veins of the Earth development feedback BETA 13
« Reply #309 on: January 22, 2017, 05:47:53 PM »
Good news, I fixed the 'blind on turn 1 of new level' bug. Turns out the FOV wasn't getting regenerated properly...