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Title: your favorite roguelike
Post by: dopefish7590 on October 12, 2007, 12:08:34 AM
i noticed a few threads similar to this but none that ask what your favorite roguelike is, the closeset thread to this is "what would your dream roguelike have?"

mine would have to be ADOM by a longshot. you can do anything plus it isnt just one goal to beat the game but there is quite a few goals and quests to get one of the multiple endings, you are not al the time in a dungeon (there is an overworld map) plus there are caves and unique areas to explore like the tower of eternal flames and the underwater caves. there are special areas, like an arena, casino, vaults, etc... there are multiple artifacts needed to beat the game such as the elemental orbs, and so many ways to do things. it also features unique ways to get past things, like you need the trident of the red rooster if you are a lawful guy wanting to pass through the chaos gate and slay the chaos god. there is background elements like background corruption and various special effects rooms. overall adom is an incredible roguelike with everything. thats why my favorite rogelike is adom.

your turn :)
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Elig on October 12, 2007, 12:22:01 AM
ZAngband followed by Nethack.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: TidusBlade on October 12, 2007, 09:43:34 PM
I only played a few simple ones, but so far, Nethack is my favorite, And Crawl is second, Rogue would be third if it classified as a Roguelike  :P
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Slash on October 13, 2007, 03:27:18 PM
DoomRL is the one I have played seriously in rogueplayer mode, and the one I enjoy the most, I also like ADOM, Moria and rogue. Papaki also looked interesting although development seems to have stopped.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: corremn on October 14, 2007, 02:48:59 PM
In no particular order;

DoomRL
IVAN
Incursion
SewerJacks  ;)
Crawl

And ADOM not that I have played if for years and am not likely to unless a new release comes out.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: tseckington on October 15, 2007, 05:27:10 AM
DoomRL is probably my favorite, but I also enjoy Drash, Scrap, SewerJacks, and Frozen Depths quite a bit. Oh, and Warp.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Krice on October 17, 2007, 10:31:25 AM
Nethack is the only RL I play, just for fun not seriously. Just before the Quest NH becomes too hard for me. I wish Dev Team would release new version. You can always hope:)
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Adral on October 17, 2007, 04:32:28 PM
Nethack is the only RL I play, just for fun not seriously. Just before the Quest NH becomes too hard for me. I wish Dev Team would release new version. You can always hope:)
We can place our bets in "What will come first, Duke Nukem Forever or Nethack 4.0.0?" :P

Anyway, my favourite roguelikes must be Angband (for its simplicity), ADoM (it brings good memories, it was my first RL), DoomRL (it is way too cool, but I cannot play it on 64-bit linux :(), and maybe Crawl (since I've spent may hours in it too).

Incursion is looking really neat, too, I guess it will become a new favourite over time.

Truth is I am not playing roguelikes much nowadays. The university is really killing my free time.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Z on October 17, 2007, 06:45:39 PM
I have answered this question in this thread (http://www.roguetemple.com/forums/index.php?topic=4.0), but I can update it.

I hate Angband variants (for its simplicity), but I like ADOM (classic), Crawl (great balance), DoomRL (very well done, although small), IVAN (which somehow seems underrated on the newsgroups, but has many fans on this forum - unfortunately it is incomplete and does not seem to grow). From the old games which are now quite forgotten, I like Ragnarok/Valhalla which was my first, and Mission Thunderbolt which was a quite good commercial roguelike. I did not try Incursion or Dwarf Fortress or other new games yet because I was busy trying to win Crawl again, and now that I won Crawl I have some work to do ;) and I'll try them then.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Anvilfolk on October 17, 2007, 10:27:13 PM
I've never won anything :\

I am Adral's clone university-wise :P
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Slash on October 18, 2007, 05:04:53 AM
I am your clone work-wise ;)
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Krice on October 18, 2007, 06:07:43 AM
Nethack is good for casual playing, I think it's one of the few reasons I like it. You can't really play other roguelikes that way.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Adral on October 18, 2007, 02:58:45 PM
[hijack]
I am Adral's clone university-wise :P
I am your clone work-wise ;)

We shall put forth a legion of relentless clone workers to conquer the world. The army of They Who Are Too Busy will triumph! :P

[/hijack]
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Anvilfolk on October 18, 2007, 06:47:26 PM
There we go, now we've got some personality! But enough talking... there is work to do. *g*

Anyway, as someone said, not in any particular order:
IVAN
Crawl
ADOM
& loads of other less known ones

Also, not entirely roguelikish, Dwarf Fortress and totally unroguelikish, Cortex Command, just recently.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: dopefish7590 on October 18, 2007, 11:40:59 PM
We can place our bets in "What will come first, Duke Nukem Forever or Nethack 4.0.0?" :P

haha how true, your talking to a hardcore duke nukem fan rigt now 8)
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: beam on October 23, 2007, 03:55:43 PM
Frozen Depths is my current favorite. It's the roguelike I've spent the most time playing, that's for sure
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: tseckington on October 23, 2007, 07:12:46 PM
Why not just make a DukeNukum RL?
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Slash on October 24, 2007, 09:35:17 PM
I think that was suggested at chaosforge, along with a wolf3d roguelike
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Krice on October 26, 2007, 10:39:22 AM
I think that was suggested at chaosforge, along with a wolf3d roguelike

Can't imagine what isn't yet suggested. You can make roguelike out of anything. Btw just tried to play Nethack but it's boring. Actually I think I don't like roguelikes... but that just makes me try harder to make Kaduria something better.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Slash on October 27, 2007, 08:04:01 PM
Yeah, that is a good motivation. Hope to see it soon.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: bobinator1992 on December 10, 2007, 08:10:58 PM
Definitely IVAN. Nothin' like beating the crap out of people with your own arm!

Once, I made it out of the first dungeon and into the second town, where I ran out of food and died.

Is it even possible to win? Seriously?
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Anvilfolk on December 10, 2007, 10:16:30 PM
When I played, I used to get past the first dungeon at least half the times! Make sure you eat all that Genetix Vesana (or whatever her name is) drops, there's plenty of food in that level. The farthest I've ever went is the second dungeon, a few levels down (damn mines), where there's this guy that just needs to scream and you get hurt. The closer you are, the more hurt you get every time he screams. It's horrible. I once got near him, but died after a scream or two, couldn't slay him.

How do you usually die?

Also, there have been reports of people who did win ;)
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: corremn on December 10, 2007, 10:46:07 PM
I generally get past the first dungeon "most" of the time, once you get experience it isn't hard to know what works. 
However IVAN is one of those games that the better equipped you are the harder your enemies are. This is very important in the second dungeon, leave those great items behind until you need them to defeat something big. 

I struggle to beat the screaming guy, my tactic is to transform into a werewolf and beat the crap out of him, also put health potions in cans so they dont break as easily.  However I am no expert at this game, I have gotten as far as the dark frog? level a few times.

There are so many little things that you can do to increase your chances in this game, eventually you will figure most of them out. 



Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on January 21, 2008, 10:50:43 PM
Yeah, Ivan is definitely up there for me. I would have to say that it is a tie between DoomRL and Ivan actually. I haven't played ADOM in awhile but it does have a special place in my heart because it was the first RL I played. However, Ivan and DoomRL are just crazy, good, masochistic fun. I don't think I have ever died so many times in a game (Ivan) or had much more fun then the original (DoomRL). Dwarf Fortress also gets a special mention, I love the game and the concept but until I get a handle on being able to play it better I can't really justify saying it's my favorite (even though it is pretty damn tempting even without full knowledge of the game). Dwarf Fortress I think will be one of those games that will continue to grow on me until it finally is my favorite.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Vanguard on June 16, 2008, 05:26:15 AM
Dwarf Fortress is what I play the most lately.  It's amazing how much detail and work Toady One has put into that game.

Ragnarok is the first one I've beaten, and it's always been a favorite of mine.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Korimyr the Rat on June 17, 2008, 06:15:58 AM
Haven't yet seen one of Kornel's games that I haven't loved. Favorites are DoomRL and Berserk!.

I discovered the genre through NetHack, but I've discovered I don't care for that level of complexity.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Slash on July 05, 2008, 04:13:19 PM
yeah, I like Kornel's games too, a shame he seems to be away from roguelike development

Who talks, I myself am into other things as well :D
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Troglodyte on July 20, 2008, 02:13:11 PM
My favorites would be Iter Vehemens ad Necem and Ancient Domains of Mystery (I like the first one more though). I just LOVE Ivan's graphics. Dunno why...

My In-Dev roguelike (which is in around the middle of development) even slightly reassembles IVAN...  ::)
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Anvilfolk on July 20, 2008, 04:17:13 PM
YAY! GO IVAN! :D

Finally, another IVAN supporter! Haven't played for a long time :\

I might try to distribute binaries for linux at some point... the fact that you have to compile (several problems with compiling too) is really not helpful. Kinda like crawl, really.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: corremn on July 21, 2008, 12:34:45 AM
YAY! GO IVAN! :D

Finally, another IVAN supporter! Haven't played for a long time :\

I might try to distribute binaries for linux at some point... the fact that you have to compile (several problems with compiling too) is really not helpful. Kinda like crawl, really.

While you are at it take up IVAN development as well, it needs another release!

Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Anvilfolk on July 21, 2008, 12:53:10 AM
Hahaha, funny guy ;D

That's a leap I'm definitely not ready to make, from compiling to actually developing other people's source code. Besides, it's great as it is... what would you add? Magic?
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Troglodyte on July 21, 2008, 06:14:12 AM
I'd add some nonsencile skillz, like skateboarding or cycling.

OKOK magic would do, although I'd like it to be a rare skill which not everyone could get, let alone master.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: DaBeowulf on November 16, 2008, 03:06:24 PM
Incursion, the game's system works out great.
And the items you can have... e.g. "blessed lawful holy dwarven warhammer +2".  ;D
Instant classic IMO.

ADOM is similarly awesome (I have a thing for great and extensive "online help", story and flavor tidbits).

Gotta love IVAN with its doorbanging and bonefile-character-equipment abusing monsters, yup
and the splatter value.  ;)

Guess that's my beloved trinity.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: futuramaguy42 on June 24, 2009, 04:16:58 PM
I would say Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup, then IVAN. DoomRL and Rogue are other ones I really enjoy.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Skeletor on October 10, 2009, 06:22:29 PM
My chart is:
#1- Adom
#2- Doom RL
#3- IVAN

Adom is my favourite. Lots of race/class combinations (really different to play), lots of secrets in Wasteland style (that is one of Biskup favourite games indeed), hard and challenging.

When I want more action I love to have a quick Doom RL game.

I recently discovered IVAN and it's really cool, too bad it will be probably no more updated or completed.

Some days ago I also started playing Triangle Wizard; the game is still simple but I find the concept (real time action top down roguelike) really cool.

About Angband, I tried the vanilla one but I founded it very boring, it lacks many features compared to Adom. BTW I appreciate the 100% tactical orientation.
Maybe in the future I'll try some variants.

I also really like Spleunky and Cortex Command (not roguelike games).
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Vanguard on October 11, 2009, 05:20:17 AM
I also really like Spleunky and Cortex Command (not roguelike games).

Spelunky has been determined to be 78% roguelike. (http://www.roguetemple.com/2009/02/01/roguetemples-spotlight-spelunky/)

It's an awesome game, but it's gotten to be too easy to me now, so I have to look for something else.

I'm disappointed that Mage Guild (http://lukos.x10hosting.com/) hasn't been mentioned as anyone's favorite in this thread yet.  It really deserves more attention than it's gotten.  In my opinion, it is the greatest example of refinement and perfection of the formula the original Rogue created - the formula of short, single dungeon games with no turning back.

Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Skeletor on October 11, 2009, 01:22:57 PM
Good thing!
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Twiccan on October 22, 2009, 07:55:17 PM
Nethack is what got me to even notice roguelikes in the first place, but I have to say my current favorite is Crawl Stone Soup.  It has most of the depth as Nethack, but is a TON easier to move around and control everything.  VERY intuitive for this type of game.  I know other games are deeper, but DCSS is plenty deep enough for me.  Also, I love how religion plays so much of a role in alot of the character types.  I think it's the perfect roguelike for me, if there is such a thing. ;)
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Anvilfolk on October 26, 2009, 09:18:50 AM
What other games are deeper? I love Crawl because of the depth it has... others seem a little too simplified.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Twiccan on October 26, 2009, 03:17:26 PM
What other games are deeper? I love Crawl because of the depth it has... others seem a little too simplified.

Nethack seems a bit deeper since there is more you can do.  And while I haven't played them too much, games like Angband and such seem like they are a bit deeper, since there are cities and wilderness areas and such as well as the dungeons.

Crawl seems like it has distilled the multitude of actions and locations of those other games to give the player a similar experience but without all of the minutia of detail that some other games have.  I never have that "overwhelmed" feeling playing it, but I have gotten that feeling playing some other roguelikes.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Etinarg on October 26, 2009, 03:38:05 PM
Angband misses a whole lot of the things you can do in NetHack. The town in vanilla Angband also doesn't add much. I assume some variants provide more depth, but I'd rate NetHack higher on detail and interactivity.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: getter77 on October 26, 2009, 03:42:51 PM
I'd say Elona is probably around the high points of depth of things that mess with other things at this point.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Twiccan on October 26, 2009, 05:18:46 PM
I'd say Elona is probably around the high points of depth of things that mess with other things at this point.

That's another one that I have really wanted to get into, but have been too intimidated to do so. :)
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Vanguard on October 26, 2009, 10:08:30 PM
I'd say Elona is probably around the high points of depth of things that mess with other things at this point.

You think so?  I found it to be incredibly shallow, despite the quantity of features it offers.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: getter77 on October 26, 2009, 10:47:40 PM
Well, purely along things messing with other things, world events, etc.  The game still has quite a ways to go stability and playability wise---but has made good progress as of late.  Doubly so considering the bilingual handicap it has on it that many other Roguelikes to not.

All progressions remaining as they have, I'd like to think Incursion will solidly take the title after another major release or so in another year or so barring the appearance of a Dark Horse on the scene.

Mageguild is pretty awesome though, even with my limited time spent with it awhile back.  Definitely one of the ones up there.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Metoollhead on November 13, 2009, 01:57:51 PM
Mine would have to be ADOM, Spelunky, and DoomRL.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: pat on November 23, 2009, 10:30:49 PM
it's always been nethack. I've played a lot of adom and dabbled mostly with the *bands, IVAN, dwarf fortress, and crawl (mostly pre-stone soup), but nothing compares to nethack.

It's depressing to think that I've been playing rogue/hack/nethack on and off for over 20 years and have ascended a grand total of... once.

EDIT: wait!! I forgot about Incursion! Incursion blows me away already, and when the final version comes out, it's going to ruin my life.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Vanguard on November 25, 2009, 11:03:56 PM
Oh yeah, incursion is awesome.  I think it'll be the next big "thing" in roguelikes.  I don't play it much yet because it's still a bit too buggy for me.  My best character is just kind of stuck because once I get to a certain point in the dungeon it just crashes.

They also make it way too hard to be good on their morality axis.  I don't have a problem with good being something harder to attain than evil, but you have to be such a pansy pushover doormat with every single encounter because apparently if you get ambushed by a monster that is purely and inherently evil, it's bad to defend yourself with lethal force.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: rz.berry on February 14, 2010, 04:30:45 AM
Crawl all day, baby.
I used to tear up some NetHack, but after DCSS everything else pales in comparison. I'm trying to broaden my RL horizons though; I've tried nearly every game available but haven't gotten far into but a handful of them.
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: sausage on February 24, 2010, 06:16:58 PM
Crawl, Dwarf Fortress, and Mage Guild are my favorites.

I fallen away from DF as it doesn't have magic, and barely has fire, both of which I love. (I was purely a mage in Fable, and I never play anything but a caster in DnD/Crawl
Title: Re: your favorite roguelike
Post by: Colstar on September 13, 2017, 01:01:18 PM
Some great recommendations here, will have to check them out.  :)