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Title: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.3
Post by: roguedjack on July 18, 2010, 04:34:02 PM
Rogue Survivor
alpha 4.3

Alpha 4.3 includes a configuration program to run the game on all Window system.
If the game crashes at startup, run the configuration program.
See changelog.


Theme & Setting
Graphical zombie apocalypse urban survival game.

Screenshots & Videos
Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/roguedjack (http://www.youtube.com/user/roguedjack).
Blog: http://roguesurvivor.blogspot.com  (http://roguesurvivor.blogspot.com)

Environment
Windows, .NET.
Don't be afraid of ".NET". If you have Windows, you probably already have those installed.

Game Objective
Survive as long as you can, do achievements, score points.

Download & Requierements
Alpha 4.3

With installer recommended
http://www.mediafire.com/?6f1gj5lwslb4361 (http://www.mediafire.com/?6f1gj5lwslb4361)

Without installer (zip)
http://www.mediafire.com/?qumdorjeanqpg1g (http://www.mediafire.com/?qumdorjeanqpg1g)

If you have problems, follow the technical help provided in the readme.

Instructions
readme.txt provided.
Remember to uninstall your previous version first!

Change log
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ALPHA 4.3 CHANGES
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Mostly a HUGE bug fix and a couple of new sweet features.
Everyone who got crashes should be able to play the game and get sound now!
Fix the crash bug for Win7 and some other configs!
Config program to choose between different Video and Sound engines!


FIXED BUGS
- Some people couldn't run the game at all because of Managed DirectX crashing.
- No music on some computers.
- Modding some items stacklimit down to 1 crashes a new game.
- Rapid Fire taking two turns.

CONFIG
- Run "RSConfig".
- Video :
  - Managed DirectX : default, but might crash on some computers.
  - GDI+            : slower and a bit less good looking, but safer.
- Audio :
  - Managed DirectX : default, plays the mp3 files, but might crash or get no sound on some computers.
  - SFML 1.6        : plays the ogg files.
  - No Sound        : if all else fails, at least it won't crash...
 
MODDING
- Pills stacking limit can now be changed properly.
- All melee weapons can now be made stackable, except uniques.

GAMEPLAY
Pushing
- New Action : Shove people around - kick survivors out of your base or rush through zombies.
Weather
- Rain has a chance to put out fires (eg: burning cars).

INTERFACE & MANUAL
- Updated manual.

GRAPHICS & MUSIC
- Musics in ogg format for SFML audio support.

KNOWN BUGS AND GLITCHES
- Asymetric FoV along walls.
- GDI+ : some differences from default Managed DirectX rendering.

Have fun!
And remember, die with a smile!
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4
Post by: getter77 on July 18, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
Progress continues to look great, keep at it!   8)

Random feature request just because:  Somehow, somewhere....a Thresher.   Good memories in Body Harvest back on the N64.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4
Post by: Elig on July 18, 2010, 10:16:30 PM
Amazing! This is really awesome, I've become absolutely addicted to Rogue Survivor, and this will simply fuel my addiction further :) I love all the new features, keep up the amazing work!
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4
Post by: x2yzh9 on July 19, 2010, 12:23:25 AM
What if on the city map, certain districts are picked to have 'forts' in them, maybe at the center. Ie. Barricaded, and the survivors there have rifles and such and continually defend, repair, and go look for food? But they could also be overrun. It'd be pretty cool to find a survivor outpost a week into the apocalypse.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4
Post by: Archaalen on July 19, 2010, 04:28:13 AM
This may be a dumb question, but how do you climb up and down stairs/ladders?  I can't find it in the keybindings.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4
Post by: x2yzh9 on July 19, 2010, 06:17:36 AM
Press 'x'
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4
Post by: Archaalen on July 19, 2010, 10:19:59 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4
Post by: Chex Warrior on July 20, 2010, 02:04:35 AM
Yes, thank you, I couldn't figure out how to go up and down stairs either. 

Roguedjack I'm lovin' it so far!

Great subway music by the way...
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4
Post by: Florian on August 24, 2010, 03:40:24 AM
I have wanted to play this roguelike for a while. Please tell me you are adding mac support as I wouldn't like to never get to play this epic roguelike :C.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: roguedjack on August 27, 2010, 02:24:31 PM
Alpha 4.1 up.

I have wanted to play this roguelike for a while. Please tell me you are adding mac support as I wouldn't like to never get to play this epic roguelike :C.
Sorry the game is done with DirectX and .NET so no mac support.  :'(
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: Chex Warrior on August 27, 2010, 04:04:49 PM
Awesome! Can't wait to explore the Hospital.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: Trisk on August 27, 2010, 07:08:09 PM
Just started playing this, did two games. It is -amazing-

Wow. Holy crap just pure unbridled awesome. Broke in the....office building and died immediately, the prison thing was just so cool. Music and all.

Color me impressed.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: getter77 on August 27, 2010, 08:09:23 PM
Nicely done roguedjack---I'm also quite liking the youtube videos.   8)
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: Lap on August 28, 2010, 09:59:27 AM
Just played to about day 30 and cleared out a char base. Kind of a disappointing end there. It should spawn a rocket launcher or some other fun toy so the developer message isn't so crushingly sad.

I also noticed only a single cell phone in 30 days and absolutely zero crossbows. Considering how common cell phones are that was a huge surprise.I don't think the precision rifle does enough damage to make up for the low clip size. I feel like grenades could also use a damage buff as well.

I'd  like to suggest a new tile/object: Vending Machine. You can break them and get some food, but it makes a lot of noise. It would be a good way to add a small amount of food to places like the subway or possibly even the sewer maintenance rooms. As it is now I avoid both places entirely since they don't seem worth going to.

Unless I missed it, I'd really like to see a "Set directives for all followers" option as it was really annoying to always set them.

Does getting leadership on your followers even do anything?

Is there a way to go up or downtsairs when a player or object is blocking the other side?

Also, your link to your blog in the OP is busted.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: roguedjack on August 28, 2010, 02:39:22 PM
Thanks for the comments.

Just played to about day 30 and cleared out a char base. Kind of a disappointing end there. It should spawn a rocket launcher or some other fun toy so the developer message isn't so crushingly sad.
Quite a let down I know. Makes me laugh in some perverse way  :D
I planned to continue the char base plot for 4.1 for had not the time.

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I also noticed only a single cell phone in 30 days and absolutely zero crossbows. Considering how common cell phones are that was a huge surprise.I don't think the precision rifle does enough damage to make up for the low clip size. I feel like grenades could also use a damage buff as well.
Phones & Crossbows : RNG God is tricky. Also remember NPC take items as you do, you can try to find them by trading.
Precision Rifle: BO are carrying those and they are your enemies, I'm not sure other players would be ok with make them even deadlier  ;D
Grenades : There will be more powerful explosives later. More powerful grenades is risky with NPCs throwing them too.

As a side note, there will never be a powerful weapon to easily kill a bunch of enemies. I don't want to turn the game into a kill fest. The player is just another survivor in the game world.

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I'd  like to suggest a new tile/object: Vending Machine. You can break them and get some food, but it makes a lot of noise. It would be a good way to add a small amount of food to places like the subway or possibly even the sewer maintenance rooms. As it is now I avoid both places entirely since they don't seem worth going to.
Was thinking about adding them too, with chocolate bars/coke food items.
I don't use the subway either. I'll enrich the locations/floorplans later.

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Unless I missed it, I'd really like to see a "Set directives for all followers" option as it was really annoying to always set them.
Good idea.

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Does getting leadership on your followers even do anything?
While they are followers, no. If you were expecting a chain of command with leaders leading other leaders, no. It cause all sorts of problems gameplay-wise and AI-wise.

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Is there a way to go up or downtsairs when a player or object is blocking the other side?
No, but possibilities to do that will come in later versions.

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Also, your link to your blog in the OP is busted.
Thanks, fixed.

Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: Lap on August 28, 2010, 09:00:35 PM
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Also remember NPC take items as you do, you can try to find them by trading.

I was including all the NPC's I saw in the item count even if I couldn't get them to trade their stuff away. Maybe I was just unlucky.

Fair enough on the precision rifle, most of the BO I encounter are dead or dying from the horde so I usually have little problems by the time I get to them.

I've actually never witnessed an NPC throwing a grenade. My personal preference is to have grenades be slightly more powerful, but also rarer. I was surprised at how many I could find in people's homes and equally surprised when it would take three to kill the average zombie.

With the leader thing I certainly don't expect any chain of command type stuff and it's fine the way it is. However, I don't think leadership should even be an option for followers when they level up. All it does is serve to confuse newbies and make them waste points in it.

Another interface type irritation was how limited the range for telling allies to build fortifications. It'd really be nice to be able to tell your ally to board up the window on the other side of the room so I could work on the other windows.

Any future plans on letting us tell a follower to just drop a single item? I had many a drop all just to get one or two things.

Unrelated note, is medic an entirely self only skill or is there a way to benefit teammates with it?

I also noticed it was very hard to get teammates to use beds even when they were empty only a couple of feet away. Any tricks besides pulling the beds around until they decide to hop on one?

Now that civilians can kill any thoughts about a game setting allowing for civ killing? You could probably balance it out with some sort of infamy system that makes cops and military target you.

Sorry for not mentioning this early, but great job. It's not often I can play a roguelike for eight hours straight and besides a few minor things, there's not much more I think the game really needs (core gameplay is solid). The AI felt pretty good and I mostly liked the way that companions were controlled. Definitely in my top favorite roguelikes now.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: Trisk on August 29, 2010, 03:18:49 PM
So, I finally got a character to last a few days (held up in a grocery store).
*SPOILER TEXT*(just highlight it)
When the army shows up the difficulty drops immensely, though my main complaint was a lack of food to be found there's a massive polarity shift from really damn hard(but acceptable) to food no longer being an issue period once the army shows up. The supply drops are awesome, but a bit too awesome in my mind, as far as difficult is concerned.
*END SPOILER TEXT*

Also, that save I sent you (adamcaverhill) would crash in a few turns regardless of actions. It might be worth noting that I have some pretty hefty simulation options turned up.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: roguedjack on August 29, 2010, 03:32:15 PM
I've actually never witnessed an NPC throwing a grenade. My personal preference is to have grenades be slightly more powerful, but also rarer. I was surprised at how many I could find in people's homes and equally surprised when it would take three to kill the average zombie.
Its difficult to balance item quantity and distribution for the player, since other NPCs will take them too contrary to standard Roguelikes.
NPCs do throw grenades, but it is very rare since they are very cautious (perhaps a bit too cautious).

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With the leader thing I certainly don't expect any chain of command type stuff and it's fine the way it is. However, I don't think leadership should even be an option for followers when they level up. All it does is serve to confuse newbies and make them waste points in it.
Noobs are noobs  ;D

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Another interface type irritation was how limited the range for telling allies to build fortifications. It'd really be nice to be able to tell your ally to board up the window on the other side of the room so I could work on the other windows.
Right now for orders you can only select locations that are visible by both you and your followers. I understand it is frustrating. I'll improve that when I finally do proper pathfinding for followers -one of the thing I keep delaying  ::)

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Any future plans on letting us tell a follower to just drop a single item? I had many a drop all just to get one or two things.
That one as well  :D

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Unrelated note, is medic an entirely self only skill or is there a way to benefit teammates with it?
Medic will allow actors to use meds items on other (hence the hospital will be good to recruit doctors etc...)

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I also noticed it was very hard to get teammates to use beds even when they were empty only a couple of feet away. Any tricks besides pulling the beds around until they decide to hop on one?
They use beds if it is within their view and they want to sleep. Remember other actors have FoV too like the player.

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Now that civilians can kill any thoughts about a game setting allowing for civ killing? You could probably balance it out with some sort of infamy system that makes cops and military target you.
Planned.

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Sorry for not mentioning this early, but great job. It's not often I can play a roguelike for eight hours straight and besides a few minor things, there's not much more I think the game really needs (core gameplay is solid). The AI felt pretty good and I mostly liked the way that companions were controlled. Definitely in my top favorite roguelikes now.
Thanks  :-*

(about difficulty after XXX happens)
This is WAD, a moment you can use to breathe a bit.
I try to make the game difficulty dynamic rather than linear and too predictible.
The difficulty should go up again soon  ;D

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Also, that save I sent you (adamcaverhill) would crash in a few turns regardless of actions. It might be worth noting that I have some pretty hefty simulation options turned up.
I looked at the save and it did produce the bug. Thanks for helping.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: Lap on August 29, 2010, 03:41:59 PM
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They use beds if it is within their view and they want to sleep. Remember other actors have FoV too like the player.

Well I was in an unlit basement most of the time with no flashlight, so that might explain it?

Can grenades bounce to unintended places? I was wondering because it seems like people run extremely far away when a grenade is thrown. Even when civs start outside the blast radius they continue to run far from it. Is this just done for realism or is it part of the "too cautious" situation.

Nice quick response time on finding the unequip/equip bug. Thanks for letting us save anywhere. No way would I have even gotten past day 3 without it because of this bug.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: krabby on August 29, 2010, 06:52:50 PM
I like your game, but why are commercial stores so easily convertible to fortresses? Shouldn't they have more windows (especially storefront windows) and such?

There could be also include back-exit firedoors (building codes and regulations?). And maybe there could be an alarm system whenever a door or window is smashed.

There could also be banks, which include an easily barricadable vault.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: Elig on August 29, 2010, 11:10:59 PM
I like your game, but why are commercial stores so easily convertible to fortresses? Shouldn't they have more windows (especially storefront windows) and such?
I actually agree with this a lot. Maybe not every store, but definitely some stores. It would be kinda cool to have big glass windows every other tile or maybe every tile.
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There could also be banks, which include an easily barricadable vault.
This would also be pretty cool.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: Trisk on August 30, 2010, 03:17:06 PM
One request, a difficulty option that allows true Ironman Roguelike, deleting your save after death and

Two, can you tell us what causes the crash so we can avoid it? At least until the next release. I hate having to reload a save that's a hundred+ turns back because I neglected to save.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: roguedjack on August 30, 2010, 03:46:27 PM
I like your game, but why are commercial stores so easily convertible to fortresses? Shouldn't they have more windows (especially storefront windows) and such?

There could be also include back-exit firedoors (building codes and regulations?). And maybe there could be an alarm system whenever a door or window is smashed.

There could also be banks, which include an easily barricadable vault.
Right now I make simple layouts to test the gameplay effects (eg: a shop with no window plays very differentlyfrom a house with lots of openings etc...) and get the basics done. I'll add more content for new versions, this includes different floorplans (eg: different shop layout, window or not....) for buildings and new buildings.
The Bank Building sounds good, I'll add it to the FAQ.

One request, a difficulty option that allows true Ironman Roguelike, deleting your save after death and
Might add it. For now just don't load  ;D

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Two, can you tell us what causes the crash so we can avoid it? At least until the next release. I hate having to reload a save that's a hundred+ turns back because I neglected to save.
NPCs can get stuck into an infinite sequence of Equip-Unequip actions (cf the blog and the video).
There is no garuanteed trick you can do to avoid it. It is provoked by NPCs on their own.
Your only chance to influence that is to reload the game and try a different action sequence (eg: move north instead of south...) than the one that lead to the bug.
I know its frustrating (enraging for me to have overlooked that bug), I'll release bugfix version 4.11 very soon.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: Sabin Stargem on August 31, 2010, 01:08:50 AM
On the topic of vending machines, maybe they should be equipped with alarms and take several hits to access, trading the player's security for food?

I would like to suggest a new item:  Bedrolls, which allows the player to carry a portable bed, which allows for a wider range of safehouses the player can establish, especially if they are recruiting NPCs and want them to guard certain areas but want good sleeping accommodations.

Come to think of it, I have a suggestion about the AI.  I am not sure if it is reasonable, but maybe allied NPCs could secure the building they are living in and sleep in shifts, which they adjust according to their group's size and how many are in the building.  This theoretically should help with making them reasonably rested if trouble comes knocking or if they go on a expedition.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.11
Post by: roguedjack on August 31, 2010, 03:32:52 PM
4.11 out. Fix the damn bug and a couple of stuff.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.11
Post by: Jetman123 on September 01, 2010, 12:50:18 PM
I love this game, even in it's incomplete state. It's very fun, even though from a strict standpoint there's not a huge amount to do yet.

Keep developing! We're hungry for MORE! :D
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.1
Post by: roguedjack on September 02, 2010, 03:18:30 PM
Can grenades bounce to unintended places? I was wondering because it seems like people run extremely far away when a grenade is thrown. Even when civs start outside the blast radius they continue to run far from it. Is this just done for realism or is it part of the "too cautious" situation.
They don't bounce. Explosions are tricky due to chain reactions and people being able to throw back grenades, so the AI just run away as far as they can. A more clever behavior would requiere more CPU (eg: consider bomb blast radius, consider chain reactions, consider possibility of throwing back).

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On the topic of vending machines, maybe they should be equipped with alarms and take several hits to access, trading the player's security for food?
That's a possibility. I'm not decided on how to implement VM yet.

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I would like to suggest a new item:  Bedrolls, which allows the player to carry a portable bed, which allows for a wider range of safehouses the player can establish, especially if they are recruiting NPCs and want them to guard certain areas but want good sleeping accommodations.
I prefer making use of the Hardy skill.

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Come to think of it, I have a suggestion about the AI.  I am not sure if it is reasonable, but maybe allied NPCs could secure the building they are living in and sleep in shifts, which they adjust according to their group's size and how many are in the building.  This theoretically should help with making them reasonably rested if trouble comes knocking or if they go on a expedition.
Group behavior is kinda hard to do, and not very reliable or useful imho in an environement changing so fast.
Still, one thing I could improve is to make follower and leader NPCs behavior more dependant on each other (eg: follower and leader takes turn in sleeping/guarding as you describe).
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.11
Post by: unimural on September 03, 2010, 11:22:04 AM
I've enjoyed Rogue Survivor greatly, tons of fun! Thank you.

On the 22nd day I went to help a lonesome survivor that was chased by a skelly and a zombie. Which turned out to be a huge mistake as a horde descended upon us from every direction. Fortunately we run into two rather well equipped surivivors as we were retreating. We foolishly retreated into a corner of the map, and the survivors run out of ammo (I still had quite a bit left). So they started throwing grenades.

While individually grenades aren't that great, three grenades exploding in a chain reaction makes a lot of minced zombie meat. ;D

Highlight for spoilerish section:
I definitely wouldn't want the precision rifle to be deadlier. It's easy enough to be instakilled by the BO before you get your hands on their gps. I dislike features that are reduced to blind luck.

Well, ok, you can always hide the first day or two after BO arrive, to increase your chance of finding the BO gps. And perhaps I was just very unlucky, but I had three games end with being instakilled by the BO before I managed to find the gps. And since I did not know of the existance of GPSs, I thought they were terribly, terribly unfair :D

All in all, I think the core gameplay is quite solid and the list of upcoming features looks interesting. I occasionally feel like the balance is a bit off. For example, the female character just seems far, far superior. But I haven't played enough yet to come up with suggestions.

Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.11
Post by: Nezur on September 03, 2010, 02:53:13 PM
This game is quite addictive. I like the atmosphere.

Suggestions

Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.11
Post by: roguedjack on September 04, 2010, 02:13:34 PM
So they started throwing grenades.
I'm happy to see someone witnessing the AI using grenades.  ;D

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spoiler stuff
I hate this kind of stuff too...
But in a roguelike I think its ok!
Only the player experience with the game, rather than the character experience, can save you from this (eg: knowing when they come and what item to get). Modern games tend to spoon feed you everything with big warning signs and big arrows pointing to stuff. You're not exploring the game, you're just following tracks setup by the game designers. It is considered good game design because they think the player is a pet that needs constant reward and an easy life. Stuff like the spoilers are so considered bad design because they frustrate the player who don't want to have is game ended at seemingly random moments and don't want to invest time in finding a solution for the next games.
Well anyway, sorry for the rant, not directed at you. And thanks for keeping playing after the initial shock  :-*

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All in all, I think the core gameplay is quite solid and the list of upcoming features looks interesting. I occasionally feel like the balance is a bit off. For example, the female character just seems far, far superior. But I haven't played enough yet to come up with suggestions.
Its hard to balance the game for the player, as for instance any item modified with the player in mind is also used by baddies or goodies NPCs as well. Make a gun stronger makes the game easier for the player and the civilians... but also harder as some baddies will use them vs the player   :-\

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Suggestions

  • Make Esc the universal exit key like in most other programs.
  • Make the 'modes' toggleable so that the same key can also be used to quit the mode.
  • I think the requirement to unequip an item before dropping it is detrimental to usability.
  • I feel you should be able to break furniture for makeshift weapons.
I'll look into these.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.11
Post by: Nezur on September 04, 2010, 10:58:06 PM
I think the "/lvl" in the description of "Tough" should be dropped. It increases HP only once, not every level afterwards.

Additionally, it might be a good idea to include pulling functionality in the "Push" command and rename it to "Pull/Push" as it would simplify moving things.

Only the player experience with the game, rather than the character experience, can save you from this (eg: knowing when they come and what item to get). Modern games tend to spoon feed you everything with big warning signs and big arrows pointing to stuff. You're not exploring the game, you're just following tracks setup by the game designers.

In my opinion relying on character abilities most of the time conforms better to the idea of roleplaying. After all, the player is supposed to be in the role of the character. Besides, emphasizing player knowledge makes reading spoilers very worthwhile.

Have you considered releasing the source code?
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.11
Post by: Chex Warrior on September 05, 2010, 01:12:27 AM
Roguedjack, is there any chance will be able to create key bindings for picking things up and dropping them. I'd love to stop using the mouse if I could.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.11
Post by: roguedjack on September 05, 2010, 12:31:55 PM
I think the "/lvl" in the description of "Tough" should be dropped. It increases HP only once, not every level afterwards.
Mmh. It should be +3 HP / lvl and works fine, I'll check that.

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Have you considered releasing the source code?
Maybe later.

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Roguedjack, is there any chance will be able to create key bindings for picking things up and dropping them. I'd love to stop using the mouse if I could.
I'll see if there is enough unbound keys left :D
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.11
Post by: LDiCesare on September 12, 2010, 11:37:50 AM
Great game.

One thing I would like to be able to do: Tell a follower this is not a good place to sleep.
They sometimes start sleeping in places which, well, are very very very bad. Like two barricades and 2 entries, and so you just get attacked by 2 zombies from each entry without warning. Silly follower.
I know I can shout to try to wake them up, but I am not sure when exactly they decide to sleep.

Is it possible  to add a 'sleep' order to the followers so we can control when they go to sleep? That way, if they want to sleep in the middle of nowhere, it'll be my fault for not telling them to rest in a safe place beforehand.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.11
Post by: roguedjack on September 12, 2010, 01:18:26 PM
You can use directives.
Tell me to not sleep by default.
Then when you find a proper place, tell them they are allowed to sleep.
They will sleep if they need to.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.11
Post by: Kin on September 15, 2010, 10:11:42 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

Very nice job!!  I love your game.

I have a few suggestions (i posted to the wiki before finding the forum)
The biggest one for me is:

..an *option* to severely limit the amount of supplies able to be found everywhere. I want to be really excited when I finally get a gun! Maybe needing to trade or even kill for ammo and food. I've found this game far too easy to amount supplies. Hopefully it gets harder after surviving for weeks or months but it would be 'fun' to scrounge from the beginning.

Edit:  Hm.. It seems I can balance this with the amount of citizens to some degree. Maybe not all that important...

Other fun things that would just be icing:

- Civilians that horde stuff and get angry when you take from their stash..

- Civs that will steal from you and even kill you for your stuff if they're desperate enough. (Civs could be just as dangerous as zombies, even more so..)


One more thing that would be great: Auto save game when shift-Q quiting. Just lost a day 9 on full everything except starting zombies... owel.   ;D

(Beautiful game! Thanks a lot! You are current king amongst me and all my roguely friends!)
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.2
Post by: roguedjack on October 09, 2010, 02:23:41 PM
Alpha 4.2 released.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.2
Post by: Flatbook on October 31, 2010, 10:50:36 PM
I like this game a lot; not only does it have potential, but it's very fun and playable already. I look forward to seeing how it develops!
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.2
Post by: roguedjack on November 14, 2010, 09:07:37 AM
Alpha 4.3 out.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.3
Post by: Gfamad on November 22, 2010, 10:13:01 AM
Great game ! Like it !

I've played it a couple of hours and it's very fun and interesting. But I have a question I can't answer by myself: I can Order a follower to Guard or Patrol, OK. But after, how can I tell her/him to follow me again ? The only way I found was to ask him/her to leave and then recruit again. I think it's not the right way...

Gfamad
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.3
Post by: roguedjack on November 22, 2010, 11:00:21 AM
Give order then cancel current order.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.3
Post by: Gfamad on November 22, 2010, 03:00:26 PM
Oops, I didn't saw the line where it's printed "0-Cancel...". Thanks for the answer RoguedJack !
In fact, I didn't saw this line because I'm playing on a netbook on 1024x600 and in this mode the font is quite tiny and sometime it's hard to read.

Oh, one more thing, maybe it's a bug, maybe not.
There was a policeman with a Zombie near him. The Policeman was equipped with a shotgun with 0/5 ammo. Si I gave him some ammo, but he didn't reload his weapon... Wasn't he suppose to do that ?

Whatever, I can't stop playing this game. It's a major Roguelike for me.

Gfamad
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.3
Post by: roguedjack on November 22, 2010, 03:49:38 PM
He can reload but there was probably a behavior that had priority over reloading, like fleeing or fighting.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.3
Post by: Gfamad on November 22, 2010, 05:50:05 PM
Ok, that's what I thought to be honest  ;)
You can count on me to track bugs. But they are hard to found, you did a very good job.

One more strange behavior if you want (I hope you like feedback !): I noticed that sometime the keyboard is not very responsive. Eg: On my netbook I configure CTRL+8 for up,CTRL+L for down... Well, sometime I must hit my keyboard twice to execute the action. It only appears on combined key like SHIFT+KEY or CTRL+KEY.

Gfamad
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.3
Post by: roguedjack on November 23, 2010, 10:24:56 AM
I'll check that, might have to do with the UI input code or threading.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.3
Post by: Gfamad on November 23, 2010, 01:40:37 PM
To help you, I notice that it happens only well I release the Ctrl or Shift key and press it again. For multiple CTRL+KEY without releasing the CTRL key, it's fine. But if I release the key, the next CTRL+KEY will not work the first time.

Hope it can help.
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.3
Post by: roguedjack on November 24, 2010, 01:10:43 PM
Mmh. Can't seem to reproduce the bug on my computer.
RS is using standard WinForms input methods.
The bug might have to do with some weird key data being set on notebooks the second time you press the Ctrl/Shift/Alt key.
Annoying.  :-\
Title: Re: Rogue Survivor Alpha 4.3
Post by: roguedjack on November 27, 2010, 05:42:27 PM
Alpha 5 out. Please use the other thread.